HMS Victory

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Postby doc larsson » Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:29 pm

Hi all

bought a model of the above 1:146 scale (revell), started building/painting it and then lost the will to win. I done most of the decks but never got round to assembling it all ie decks into hull. Then i realised, "you've got the rigging to do after this !" The rigging is what scares me the most. Wanted to give it to someone as a present and put a bit of work in at the stern,windows and gold leaf ornamentation looks good but I'm dreading trying to complete. Question is, does anyone fancy building it for me ? I may consider giving you a kidney for taking this offer up.

Suggestions please.

ps i'm into tanks but can admire a good boat when i see it,hence hms victory.

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Postby Saxondog » Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:56 am

Doc,Just read this post, and have to say I have built several Frigates,waiting on retirement to try VICTORY.

Last 1/96 scale Constitution required 2 years work and many hours of pre-assembly spent on rigging. This before ever stepping the mast. Then the fun really begins.

Victory is a very complicated vessel,yet the question would be what level of detailing? Just the stern of Victory would take some time with all her gilded carvings. Sorry pal I would certainly have to pass on her.
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Postby doc larsson » Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:45 pm

drat saxondog !that's putting me off. the chap i'm building it for.

i've painted the stern already ! it's not too bad a job,did take two or three days (now you got me wondering if i've done it any good done!).

its the ropework thats puttin me off.

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Postby Saxondog » Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:20 am

The rigging can be very complicated,yet there are techniques which simplify the task. Do not follow the instructions on rigging exactly.Meaning I build the mast separately as individual assemblies before mounting. This allows easier access to the Yard control rigging,sails and stays rigging like pulley mounting and control lines.

Attach rat lines last then mount the mast front to back on Victory a square rigged ship because much of the complicated rigging,the control system which will mount to rails and the complex Bowsprit rigging run from front to back.Each mast being 99% complete as you mount the next one,allowing the rear area to remain free of obstruction.

As you mount the mast,the lines which control raising and lowering the Yard Arms runs down to the base of the mast,leave extra line making securing to the Stanchion Rails much easier. This technique served me well many times.

This vessels are very complex machines,you have chosen the most complex to model,yet have the advantage of two good hands so do not allow my long build times to bother you,also my last ship was a gift and has been a very long build for personal reasons.

If I may be of service please ask,mot people tend to get lost because the instructions honestly are not written very well,I learned these technique over time and by learning how the original builders would build the ships. Another issue being the lower decks gun rigging,are you really going to be able to see inside the gun ports? And each Cannon could be rigged prior to mounting,this saves time as well, Really only the main deck being exposed should have that attention to detail.

So before mounting the mast,complete every detail of the main deck possible,before hand. Hope this helps? All the best,Blake
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Postby doc larsson » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:21 pm

certainly does saxond ! i never thought of building them before placing on the ship. don't feel to daunted now

cheers mate great advice

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Postby wibblywobbly » Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:33 pm

I built the Airfix version back in my 20's when I was married. Lovely model, looked great on the sideboard. Then we got a kitten.... :/
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Postby CODY614 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:23 pm

I'm not sure if this will make it worse or not?....Not sure if you have seen this site either?
http://pete-coleman.com/forum/
:D

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Postby doc larsson » Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:28 pm

cheers for that mate but i really want someone to do it for me lol !

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Postby edpanzer » Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:45 am

CODY614 wrote:I'm not sure if this will make it worse or not?....Not sure if you have seen this site either?
http://pete-coleman.com/forum/
:D

Mark Chapman's victory on there is an awesome build and do you want to know the weird thing? He is my manager and I didn't know he was into models until I told him about my midlife crisis new hobby tanking. Small world.

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