Nitro-planes Stuka JU-87 "G-2"

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Postby Saxondog » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:45 am

Hi Guys, I have been wanting a Stuka G-2 for a long time and the cost seems to always cause me to wait,and then they go away. Has anyone ever owned one of these in any version? And if so are the flying characteristics to complicated for a beginner? I have flown High wing in large scale put it's been awhile and I have never flown this type of aircraft,or course the company advertises the plane is good for any skill level and is a stable aircraft.

This would be a neat addition to the battlefield as the specific use for the G version was tank busting.Here is a short description of the type and a few pictures.

During the Battle of Kursk, only a handful of production Gs were committed. On the opening day of the offensive, Hans-Ulrich Rudel flew the only "official" Ju 87 G, although a significant number of Ju 87 D variants were fitted with the 37 mm (1.46 in) cannon, and operated as unofficial Ju 87 Gs before the battle. In June 1943, the RLM ordered 20 Ju 87 Gs as production variants.[68] The G-1 influenced the design of the 1970s U.S. A-10 with Hans Rudel's book, Stuka Pilot being required reading for all members of the A-X project.
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Postby chris3 » Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:45 am

moin

i saw this model on the inter modelbau at dortmund.
it is a awesom kit , there are 6 servos in the wing!!!
and the price was low, i gues below 200 euros.

i dont knew how this kit will fly.
i only hered that models of the stuka are not fliing very stabil, because of the spezial wing form. what only means it is not a trainer.

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Postby Saxondog » Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:28 am

Thanks Christian,it would seem this plane would be a great addition to the RCTank battlefield, the cost is 239.00us but my fear is crashing it. Their is another very large scale version. It of course is very expensive. Thanks for the information,by the way do you still have any T55 for sale?


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Postby chris3 » Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:22 pm

hello

no problem ;-)

sure i have alot t-55 still for sale :-)

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Postby STEINER » Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:30 pm

We were supported by quite a few of these whilst I have been away at the Eastern Front. I guy called Rudel seemed to be a pretty good hand at flying one. LOL.

Here you go Blake.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM9PYjsIW6g

http://rcairplanereviews.com/reviews/11 ... stuka.html

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Postby Saxondog » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:53 am

Wow, awesome plane,I really see my fear of crashing as Tony crashed on landing and he has 50 planes at least. But this would be cool with some I'R EMITTERS in those big wing cannons. But shooting might be difficult. It is amazing the power of these brushless motors and the speed they rev to.

Thanks for the link Bran,I think I will start with the kit version without the radio. My plan has worked well this last year as pocket change goes in a coffee jar,average last time 23 weeks 192.00 saved. break a 20 it goes in the can and watch guys it builds up fast.

Also the new tanks coming out and the base price with shipping being around 200.00 the change jar works out well. Next tank Panther "G".but first this STUKA,I have read several books on the tactics of using this aircraft against armor and it was a deadly plane if the tanks were in open terrain.

Next to Erik Hartmann (Greatest fighter pilot in history) Hans-Ulrich Rudel was the best ground assault pilot of any air force in WWII.

Thanks Bran, great link
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Postby Von kraftwerk » Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:38 pm

apparently Rudel was a timid child and was terrified of thunder,it seems unreal that he went on to become this flyer whose achievments equalled or even surpassed the kill rate of a many a Tiger battalion,and he sank a battleship to top it
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Postby Saxondog » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:53 pm

Very interesting person, our Aces really cannot be compared. Rudel and Hartmann both achieved very high kill rates, very high compared to other belligerents.

Hartmann was a very skilled pilot,but Rudel has to be recognized for the skill at which he developed and practised ground attack warfare.One article that impressed me was the required ground attack course based on his tactics. Just amazing the nerve these guy had and the risk involved in attacking ground targets in a air plane.
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Postby Von kraftwerk » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:25 pm

what amazes me about the skill and risk involved in stuka tank busting was that to get within kill range the pilot had to dive because the cannon fired on the horizontal and had a only had a short time to engage before hitting the ground even in a shallow dive,on the other hand the A-10 has its gun angled down about 8 degrees and can engage with less of a dive and from a longer range,I had the pleasure of watching pairs of A-10's practising attack runs over the English countryside at less than 200 feet an awesome sight to be sure!
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Postby dylan9391 » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:55 am

Hi,

It looks like a great model and at a good price. I think like any low wing aeroplane it would be quite a difficult plane to fly as a beginners model. If you were doing your pilots licence would you start with a Mustang, or a Spitfire? It's the same start with a trainer model and then progress to this one when you are confident in your abilities otherwise it could have a very short life.

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Postby [ICE]monkey » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:44 pm

Von kraftwerk wrote:I had the pleasure of watching pairs of A-10's practising attack runs over the English countryside at less than 200 feet an awesome sight to be sure!

your going back a few years there , im from pluckley ashford kent and i too got to see that great site :thumbup:
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Postby Von kraftwerk » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:01 pm

Ice yeah they were somthing else,the last time I saw them other than airshows would have been mid 90's the best sighting was over the cotswolds real low overhead,for a while after gulf war 1 we had 10 TFW A10's over from the US at Alconbury joining the TR1's and C130 spooky's,as well as a wing of F5E Aggressors and resident A10's 81st TFW at Bentwaters,we had a lot of US airpower over here then the KC's at Mildenhall still there with the SR71,48th TFW F111F's still there with F15E's at Lakenheath another TFW of F111's at Upper Heyford B52's coming and going at Fairford,really miss the Mildenhall air fete,had the pleasure of a full tour with my son of there and Lakenheath as a guest USAF Sgt that was a fellow re enactor back then,made my sons year when we got shown round the armory and a ride in a Humvee,memories eh,anyone remember some of the list I gave?sights we will never see again
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Postby Saxondog » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:34 pm

Even though land locked NAS Millington outside of Memphis has a wonderful blue angels fly in every year,to bad the regular NAS Air-groups use a base in Florida these days. But we were lucky for 95 years to have that base here.

Now it is N S A Naval Support Activity Base,down sized alot but still some aircraft to see over the city.
http://www.millingtontn.gov/navy.php
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Postby Von kraftwerk » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:50 pm

Sax don't know about you I feel a strange kind of loss when these birds fly on,always had a great affection for US aircraft,right from P38 to the F16,some favorites are F100,F105,B47,and the awesome B58,I would love to see the blue angels talking of which love US Navy stuff too Grumman Panther,A4 among others both former Blue angels mounts I believe,it all ends up in that boneyard near Tuscon AZ
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Postby X82d Pathfinder » Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:31 am

The "Bone yard" you refer to is Davis-Monthan in Pima, Arizona. If you think the A-10 is awe inspiring in exercises, you should have saw them chewing up Russian armor. As a matter of fact many spare parts for the A10 come from Davis-Mothan now. The 30MM gatling runs at 4000 rounds a minute and the depleted uranium is devastating to a AFV's.
As for the "high kill rates", You forget that American pilots rotated. German pilots did not. Many also fought in the Spanish Civil War prior to WWII. You also have to take into account that Germans had been fighting about three years prior to the U.S. entering WWII. It's not that they were superior, and certainly their aircraft weren't. It was the years of fighting that gave Germans the initial edge.
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