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HL to Taigen swap

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:48 pm
by mike57
I have a Heng Long T72, it developed a no sound fault, pretty common so I've learnt. After speaking to Forebear, I purchased a Taigen TK0711 system. I have never worked on any electronics and quite frankly I am stumped. It looks like everything is totally different and needs to be totally rewired but I have no idea how. any help greatly appreciated. I'm in Suffolk UK.

Re: HL to Taigen swap

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:31 pm
by john1970
Do an introduction before someone jumps in and gets crappy with you. It would also help to know which version of heng long board you are changing from.
the wiring diagrams in the link should help get you started
https://www.taigentanks.com/pages/manuals-diagrams

Re: HL to Taigen swap

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:39 pm
by Jofaur86
bonjour
Sauf erreur de ma part il semble pas vous être présenté sur le forum ?,ce qui est vivement souhaité,vous connaitre un peux plus? votre métier, vos passions,etc.c'est le reglement de tout forum,et plus sympa,ensuite vous obtiendrez des renseignements

Re: HL to Taigen swap

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:48 pm
by Son of a gun-ner
Jofaur86 wrote:bonjour
Sauf erreur de ma part il semble pas vous être présenté sur le forum ?,ce qui est vivement souhaité,vous connaitre un peux plus? votre métier, vos passions,etc.c'est le reglement de tout forum,et plus sympa,ensuite vous obtiendrez des renseignements

Wrong forum young man, you're on the English speaking one today ;)

Re: HL to Taigen swap

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:52 pm
by Jofaur86
:( Well then ,I admit not understand the. Remark ???

Re: HL to Taigen swap

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:54 pm
by Jofaur86
:O Mistake on my part!!!sorry

Re: HL to Taigen swap

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:02 pm
by Son of a gun-ner
Jofaur86 wrote::O Mistake on my part!!!sorry

No worries :thumbup:

Re: HL to Taigen swap

PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:29 am
by Exhibitedbrute
I could take a look but you would need to send it to me along with everything you want installing

Re: HL to Taigen swap

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:53 am
by mike57
Thanks John 1970, This is my first time on any type of forum, but needs must. I'm Mike 61 and bought a Heng Long T72 with TK 6.0 radio gear, it was for the sole purpose of making a replica of PRIMO VICTORIA from the Sabaton song and World Of Tanks Game. After having problems I was told the Taigen TK0711 would be a good replacement. But not knowing anything about electronics, I'm stumped. :problem: i've looked at the diagrams and I'm still none the wiser, if someone could transfer the numbers from the top pic onto the bottom pic even I could get it done!!! TIA

Re: HL to Taigen swap

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:56 am
by mike57
john1970 wrote:Do an introduction before someone jumps in and gets crappy with you. It would also help to know which version of heng long board you are changing from.
the wiring diagrams in the link should help get you started
https://www.taigentanks.com/pages/manuals-diagrams

Cheers, I have put a reply on this thread, if you could take a look I'd appreciate it!

Re: HL to Taigen swap

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:58 am
by mike57
Exhibitedbrute wrote:I could take a look but you would need to send it to me along with everything you want installing

Thanks, I've put a reply up in this thread, if you could take a look I'd appreciate it!

Re: HL to Taigen swap

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:57 pm
by Jofaur86
Hello :D
I mustn’t be awake ? Because I don’t undesrtand the meaning of the meaning of the question??what would be good is to have photos of the existing one and the replacement, would be easier to understand ( personal opinion ) on the current photos not easy to see :wtf:

Re: HL to Taigen swap

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:32 pm
by mike57
Jofaur86 wrote:Hello :D
I mustn’t be awake ? Because I don’t undesrtand the meaning of the meaning of the question??what would be good is to have photos of the existing one and the replacement, would be easier to understand ( personal opinion ) on the current photos not easy to see :wtf:

The top picture is of the original unit showing all connections and are numbered. The bottom pic is of the new unit, i need to know where the wires from the top unit are fitted to the bottom unit. I thought it was easy to understand.

Re: HL to Taigen swap

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:02 pm
by john1970
Nothing from the tk6.0 will plug into the taigen board everything is wired differently so your tank will require a complete rewire.

Re: HL to Taigen swap

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:17 pm
by mike57
john1970 wrote:Nothing from the tk6.0 will plug into the taigen board everything is wired differently so your tank will require a complete rewire.

Hi John, yeah I know that, I have ordered a lead set and I'm getting my head round it but the smoke unit and Bb system are foxing me. The HL smoke unit uses 4 wires but the Taigen system only uses 2 so I'm thinking the smoke unit needs to be changed. The BB system on the HL has 2 trigger wires and 2 launch wires but the taigen only shows 2 pins 8O

Re: HL to Taigen swap

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:21 pm
by Jofaur86
mike57 wrote:
Jofaur86 wrote:Hello :D
I mustn’t be awake ? Because I don’t undesrtand the meaning of the meaning of the question??what would be good is to have photos of the existing one and the replacement, would be easier to understand ( personal opinion ) on the current photos not easy to see :wtf:

The top picture is of the original unit showing all connections and are numbered. The bottom pic is of the new unit, i need to know where the wires from the top unit are fitted to the bottom unit. I thought it was easy to understand.

Easy to understand ?yes with the material under the eyes can be ? By interposed words :wtf:
John answer elsewhere,not always so simple or plug and play :thumbdown: wath if a member takes the time to respond,and they don’t understand :O don’t blame him >:<

Re: HL to Taigen swap

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:29 pm
by john1970
Do you have a soldering iron because you will need it.
change the smoke unit to a taigen 1
the BB gun and elevation share the same live wire on the taigen so has a 3 pin plug for both which plugs into the 8 pin board connected to the upper hull. while the heng long has them separate so the elevation can go in 2 directions instead of cycling through.
do you have this piece or similar if not you will need it
https://www.forgebeartanks.com/store/p6 ... _Tank.html

Re: HL to Taigen swap

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:36 pm
by Jofaur86
mike57 wrote:
john1970 wrote:Nothing from the tk6.0 will plug into the taigen board everything is wired differently so your tank will require a complete rewire.

Hi John, yeah I know that, I have ordered a lead set and I'm getting my head round it but the smoke unit and Bb system are foxing me. The HL smoke unit uses 4 wires but the Taigen system only uses 2 so I'm thinking the smoke unit needs to be changed. The BB system on the HL has 2 trigger wires and 2 launch wires but the taigen only shows 2 pins 8O

Normal,one is standard ( 2 wires) the other is proportional ( so 4 wires )
If I can give any advice ? It’s to browse the many posts on this forum,to learn a little more about tanks :thumbup:

Re: HL to Taigen swap

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:36 pm
by mike57
john1970 wrote:Do you have a soldering iron because you will need it.
change the smoke unit to a taigen 1
the BB gun and elevation share the same live wire on the taigen so has a 3 pin plug for both which plugs into the 8 pin board connected to the upper hull. while the heng long has them separate so the elevation can go in 2 directions instead of cycling through.
do you have this piece or similar if not you will need it
https://www.forgebeartanks.com/store/p6 ... _Tank.html

Hi, I have a soldering iron! I got the Taigen setup from Forgebear, it was Dave that recommended it to me, he did say I'll have to do some rewiring but didn't mention any extra leads I'd need. I've ordered a lead set but not the one you have shown, I'll order that and a smoke unit today. Am thinking this was too big of a job for me, and it doesn't seem there is anyone local that can help.

Re: HL to Taigen swap

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:40 pm
by Son of a gun-ner
From what I can gather, the wiring within the two makes of tanks, Heng Long and Taigen is different. Both turrets are wired in a slightly different way. Also the small board fitted within the top hull is wired and connected to differently between the makes.
It would be best to have the wiring diagram for the Taigen unit, and change the small top hull board and turret wiring layout to suit the Taigen.
The information you received about the Taigen board being ok to use in a Heng Long is correct, but it does take a bit of know how to do it.

I'm trying to find the turret rewiring information. Or, hopefully someone will chip in that already knows it.