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Postby Spartan tracks » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:06 pm

What are the Pro,s and cons of each of these boards any help would be great.

Kind regards Andy
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Postby tomhugill » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:04 pm

Clark's 2/3 the price!

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Postby Ad Lav » Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:42 pm

It's personal choice but I prefer elmod.
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Postby jhamm » Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:38 pm

I have had both.
Elmod is completely configurable
Clark is not configurable except you have these shit IR Remote...
I prefer Elmod too
or Open Panzer TCB ;-)
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Postby tomhugill » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:29 pm

jhamm wrote:I have had both.
Elmod is completely configurable
Clark is not configurable except you have these shit IR Remote...
I prefer Elmod too
or Open Panzer TCB ;-)


Clark is configurable just not to the same degree as el mod. But then the el mods nearly half again as much.

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Postby wibblywobbly » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:09 pm

I have TK22's, TK24's and Elmods. The TK22 is ok for a runabout tank with IR. The TK24 has vastly superior sound to the TK22.

The Elmod is in a different league in all respects. The exchange rate is at its lowest point at the moment, so if price is a factor the TK24 would be an excellent choice. The remote is not essential if you have a Sony TV remote, as you can use that, it emits the same IR codes.
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Postby c.rainford73 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:41 pm

Andy here's also something to consider when purchasing the board-

Who am I buying it from? Will you receive the same level of support if something goes amiss? Can you reach Ian or Stian in a pinch and know they are there to help you...

Here in the states I have Joe (Yellowshaker) on the forum for Elmod fusion boards and support. He setup and shipped mine for my specific tank. Very nice and helpful too.

Do you plan on operating different channels to run switches to operate individual tank functions such as music & extra machine guns? If this is the case your board must support all the extra functions like my IBU2U Ian just helped me with or the Clark tk60 That I'm running in my Nashorn or the one Maxmekker has setup for me for my M-36
The Open Panzer board and Elmod will also help you achieve this.

What tank am I using it in? Am I adding too much technology or can I get away with a Clark tk22? (and still get ir battle capabilities and servo recoil?)

Am I going to be battling or just running around the yard. Am I running servo recoil and elevation? Servo turret rotation?

How much do you want to program. Simple things can be achieved with the Sony remote. Maybe not the sexiest way to program but for the basics it gets the job done.

I have Elmod fusion Clark tk22,tk24 and tk60 boards and the newest IBU2U. I like them all for different reasons.

The newest IBU is very easy to program and is plug and play for Heng Long/Taigen. Very nice board and with the full option upgrade it's very hard to beat. I'd go with the FO version so no upgrade is needed.
(And for anyone who has not tried it yet you will see once you use one)

The Open Panzer board is very nice and easy to setup and program. You will need to source seperate speed control (inexpensive) and a Benedini mini sound board to run your tank. LukeZ and his forum are fantastic for help and support.

The Clark tk60 and tk24 are very easy to setup and sound excellent IMHO. The newest IBU2U is an excellent product for sure super easy to program and sounds much better than the originals. Elmod is only the top of the list for pricing but is fantastic and comes ready to go with all the bells and whistles.

Remember that every one has thier favorite

Hope I haven't overwhelmed you or made it more confusing.

Cheers

Carl
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Postby Ad Lav » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:58 am

Andy has four elmod already so it's an easy decision lol

I think he's trying to work out if the new TK60 is better.
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Postby tomhugill » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:08 am

c.rainford73 wrote:Andy here's also something to consider when purchasing the board-

Who am I buying it from? Will you receive the same level of support if something goes amiss? Can you reach Ian or Stian in a pinch and know they are there to help you...

Here in the states I have Joe (Yellowshaker) on the forum for Elmod fusion boards and support. He setup and shipped mine for my specific tank. Very nice and helpful too.

Do you plan on operating different channels to run switches to operate individual tank functions such as music & extra machine guns? If this is the case your board must support all the extra functions like my IBU2U Ian just helped me with or the Clark tk60 That I'm running in my Nashorn or the one Maxmekker has setup for me for my M-36
The Open Panzer board and Elmod will also help you achieve this.

What tank am I using it in? Am I adding too much technology or can I get away with a Clark tk22? (and still get ir battle capabilities and servo recoil?)

Am I going to be battling or just running around the yard. Am I running servo recoil and elevation? Servo turret rotation?

How much do you want to program. Simple things can be achieved with the Sony remote. Maybe not the sexiest way to program but for the basics it gets the job done.

I have Elmod fusion Clark tk22,tk24 and tk60 boards and the newest IBU2U. I like them all for different reasons.

The newest IBU is very easy to program and is plug and play for Heng Long/Taigen. Very nice board and with the full option upgrade it's very hard to beat. I'd go with the FO version so no upgrade is needed.
(And for anyone who has not tried it yet you will see once you use one)

The Open Panzer board is very nice and easy to setup and program. You will need to source seperate speed control (inexpensive) and a Benedini mini sound board to run your tank. LukeZ and his forum are fantastic for help and support.

The Clark tk60 and tk24 are very easy to setup and sound excellent IMHO. The newest IBU2U is an excellent product for sure super easy to program and sounds much better than the originals. Elmod is only the top of the list for pricing but is fantastic and comes ready to go with all the bells and whistles.

Remember that every one has thier favorite

Hope I haven't overwhelmed you or made it more confusing.

Cheers

Carl



Excellent summary!

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Postby wibblywobbly » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:37 am

I see that the TCB is now being mentioned in these discussions, and the videos I have seen demonstrate that it does it all. A question for anyone who has done a full install, what was the total cost, eg board, sound, esc's, and which esc's did you install? I am assuming that the Benedini provides the sound.
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Postby c.rainford73 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:43 am

tomhugill wrote:
c.rainford73 wrote:Andy here's also something to consider when purchasing the board-

Who am I buying it from? Will you receive the same level of support if something goes amiss? Can you reach Ian or Stian in a pinch and know they are there to help you...

Here in the states I have Joe (Yellowshaker) on the forum for Elmod fusion boards and support. He setup and shipped mine for my specific tank. Very nice and helpful too.

Do you plan on operating different channels to run switches to operate individual tank functions such as music & extra machine guns? If this is the case your board must support all the extra functions like my IBU2U Ian just helped me with or the Clark tk60 That I'm running in my Nashorn or the one Maxmekker has setup for me for my M-36
The Open Panzer board and Elmod will also help you achieve this.

What tank am I using it in? Am I adding too much technology or can I get away with a Clark tk22? (and still get ir battle capabilities and servo recoil?)

Am I going to be battling or just running around the yard. Am I running servo recoil and elevation? Servo turret rotation?

How much do you want to program. Simple things can be achieved with the Sony remote. Maybe not the sexiest way to program but for the basics it gets the job done.

I have Elmod fusion Clark tk22,tk24 and tk60 boards and the newest IBU2U. I like them all for different reasons.

The newest IBU is very easy to program and is plug and play for Heng Long/Taigen. Very nice board and with the full option upgrade it's very hard to beat. I'd go with the FO version so no upgrade is needed.
(And for anyone who has not tried it yet you will see once you use one)

The Open Panzer board is very nice and easy to setup and program. You will need to source seperate speed control (inexpensive) and a Benedini mini sound board to run your tank. LukeZ and his forum are fantastic for help and support.

The Clark tk60 and tk24 are very easy to setup and sound excellent IMHO. The newest IBU2U is an excellent product for sure super easy to program and sounds much better than the originals. Elmod is only the top of the list for pricing but is fantastic and comes ready to go with all the bells and whistles.

Remember that every one has thier favorite

Hope I haven't overwhelmed you or made it more confusing.

Cheers

Carl



Excellent summary!
Thanks Tom I sometimes have good input. I'm still learning every aspect myself but while offering my bit o' knowledge I've summarized......
In general, my best approach to the board choice ( and there are so very many excellent options) is choose the board that will work best for my specific application.

And a strong support system for trouble shooting is a must ( for me at least) with my limited tech skills.
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Postby walter » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:36 pm

I started with a TK-22 in my scratch build Tiger 2. Had servo recoil , elevation and cannon flash and the usual rest connected. Everything worked fine for about 3 month then things started to go wrong to the point that I was looking for a new replacement. Reading the wonderful reports of the Elmod boards I got a Fusion Pro that costed me almost 300 Australian Dollars. Installation was not as simple as the TK-22. But Elmod was very helpful. My main problem was steering the tank. Going forwards and backwards no problem but turning was a different story I kept blowing the fuse. I contacted Elmod the response was my tank was to heavy 15 kg and the board was not designed to handle that. I was very disappointed what a waste of money. What to do I contacted Clark and asked them if the TK-22 was repairable they asked a lot of questions and told me to send the board in for testing. 2 weeks later they contacted me saying there was nothing wrong with the board. The problem could be the receiver or the receiver wires. They send the board back with new receiver wires. I was a bit disappointed that they could not find anything wrong with the board. But reinstalled it anyway. Was I surprised every thing works fine to this day.
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Postby wibblywobbly » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:09 pm

All the boards will handle running a fairly heavy tank, but if you are turning a Tiger with cleated tracks on grass etc then that causes a huge amps pull. There is a heat build up in the esc's as a board draws a lot of amps when the motors are stalled. If tank stops moving the safest thing to do is pick it up and make sure that the tracks aren't jammed. If you just keep it on a full throttle turn on stalled motors any esc (or fuse) will blow eventually.

I seen full metal Tigers running ok with aftermarket boards, and run Elmods indoors and out with two of my heaviest tanks. If Clark found nothing wrong with your board there is every possibility that it was the wiring rather than the board.

The boards are all programmable, so depending on whether you have superspin enabled/disabled, track speeds adjusted, throttle curves and end points adjusted, trims done etc it can make all the difference to how the the tank turns.
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Postby c.rainford73 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:46 pm

I agree with Mr Wibbly. I've had perfect Clark tk22 boards and IBU2 boards not function properly a way back and it was discovered that simple wires were the issues.
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Postby dgsselkirk » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:55 pm

walter wrote:I started with a TK-22 in my scratch build Tiger 2. Had servo recoil , elevation and cannon flash and the usual rest connected. Everything worked fine for about 3 month then things started to go wrong to the point that I was looking for a new replacement. Reading the wonderful reports of the Elmod boards I got a Fusion Pro that costed me almost 300 Australian Dollars. Installation was not as simple as the TK-22. But Elmod was very helpful. My main problem was steering the tank. Going forwards and backwards no problem but turning was a different story I kept blowing the fuse. I contacted Elmod the response was my tank was to heavy 15 kg and the board was not designed to handle that. I was very disappointed what a waste of money. What to do I contacted Clark and asked them if the TK-22 was repairable they asked a lot of questions and told me to send the board in for testing. 2 weeks later they contacted me saying there was nothing wrong with the board. The problem could be the receiver or the receiver wires. They send the board back with new receiver wires. I was a bit disappointed that they could not find anything wrong with the board. But reinstalled it anyway. Was I surprised every thing works fine to this day.
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And what did Clark charge you for this service Walter? :D
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Postby walter » Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:30 pm

Hi
Clark did not charge anything. The only cost I had was sending the board to them. I thought it was a fist class service.
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Postby walter » Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:52 pm

Wibblywobbly
You made some very interesting comments of programming the Elmod board. Wen I contacted Elmod they did not mention any of that just stating the tank was to heavy. I must also admit programming the Elmod board or electronics is not my strong point. Thank you for your comment though.
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