Very confused on installing user sounds.

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Postby EAO » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:24 am

Hi all,
Hope this finds everyone well and healthy. So far with my beloved Elmod Fusion Pro I have 3 user sounds installed (can't really remember how I did it, but it seemed easy enough). I have some new sound files in WAV format that I put in the 111 file but can't drag them to the user sound spots in the Sound Configurator. Any guess what I'm missing?
Yellowshaker on RCUniverse made a nice video of installing the Elmod boards, but when he got to the part about sound files his video goes into hyper speed like a chipmunk on meth! My dogs find it very amusing but I'm stumped.
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer,
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Postby Jimster » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:43 am

Excellent choice! So you’re putting your SD card into your laptop, opening sound manager and opening your chosen sound set. Then clicking on “user sounds” and dragging a wav file onto the user sound number that you want it on but it’s not staying there? When you drop the wav file onto the proper area a little clock symbol appears until the file is successfully loaded, maybe a few seconds. Is this what you’re doing and if so at what point does it fail?
I’m no Elmod expert (we have a few experts on here and I’m sure they’ll chime in) but I have no trouble adding user sounds after getting help on here.

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Postby EAO » Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:53 am

Hey, it's my closest neighbor (at least regarding RC tanks)!
Yeah, when I go to drag the sound file out of 111 to the drop box in the Sound Configurator it starts with a WAV file icon but as soon as it crosses into the Sound Manager it turns into a small black and white circle with a diagonal line through it. Now that you refreshed my memory, I do remember the little clock icon appearing before the file was loaded when I installed the first 3 user sounds.
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Postby Jimster » Sun Jul 12, 2020 2:16 am

Hmm. Perhaps your wav files are somehow corrupted or something. Try dragging a song from iTunes or download a different wav file sound effect from the internet and see if that works. All the files I use are just on my desktop in folders. I’m unsure what “file 111” is without my program opened up in front of me.

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Postby Jussek » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:12 am

A dumb question, could the card be write protected?
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Postby EAO » Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:20 am

All right guys,
I'm really not sure what's going on. After several cigars and studying the night sky in the very warm evening I have arrived at this. The card does not appear to be write protected, and the files appear clean. If I go to the SD sample set content the new sound files appear there. However, some are listed as "unsupported samples" and the others are listed as "unused samples". I have tried transferring other files to the user sound section with no avail as it won't accept any files. The card functions fine when put back into the board and the tank is operated. I've never been good at this stuff and I'm sure I'm just doing something wrong. I've thought myself stupid...
ideas, suggestions?
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Postby Jimster » Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:51 am

Just to be sure. You’re opening sound manager and selecting the tank set that you’re using for your tank right. For example I’m using the Suamara Tiger or something like that. Then along the top of that sound set screen there are options like ambient sounds, user sounds etc. Then you’re opening the “user sounds” section and trying to drag a wav file from your desktop wav file into an unused box but it’s rejecting all files?
What is the file 111 you mentioned earlier?
Maybe take a pic of your screen during the file rejection or something.

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Postby EAO » Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:50 pm

Hey there,
Whatever I was doing wrong, I have now corrected. Not sure what was up but I got 5 user sounds loaded along with the previous 3 that I had done earlier. Now another question, on the sound manager I see 1-8 in user sounds. I have channel 5 on a three position switch, so where do I find drop boxes for the rest of the user sounds? Am I being annoying yet?!
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Postby Jimster » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:18 pm

I have a 5 position potentiometer on my Taranis QX7. I use it for Aux (mg headlights convoy light smoker), user sounds 1-8, 9-16, 17-24 and Function (turret rotation, gun elevation etc). I’m just learning also so I’m no expert at all!
I have a new radio enroute so if you want to pm me we can talk about getting you my QX7 after I’m comfortable with my new one.

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Postby Jimster » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:25 pm

To be clear, that round knob (potentiometer) has 5 positions. Approximately 7 O’clock, 9, 12, 2 and 5 O’clock.

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Postby EAO » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:37 pm

Ha! Guess we're kind of in the same boat. I'm using a new QX7S, a definite bit of a learning curve there! Love it though, seems it can do just about anything if you can figure out how to program it. From the Elmod user manual it sounded like a three position switch should allow access to all 24 user sounds. I have a coaxial MG that is wired up for one slot with a flip of the switch (down right stick same as the hull MG). My smoker is on by default when the tank is running which I like, and I have no auxiliary lighting.
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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:01 am

EAO: Hi, I got your message.
Maybe you can only see 8 sounds because your board is about one year old, when it was able to play only 8 user sounds until I insisted Thomas to fit those 24. (Tip: If you want to add something else to the board, write him and insist him, he might end adding it!) so the sound manager which is installed in the SD card and the software inside of the elmod board needs to be updated to the latest version.

Go to his website and download everything. The SD card files, the newest version of elmod software (which also contains the update for the board) and the latest manual where it will tell you how to update your elmod board and the signal combination for triggering the extra functions.

Keep on learning how your radio works, you will be able to asign the switches for the functions, not touching the sticks at all.
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Postby EAO » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:21 pm

Hello Rad,
Thanks for chiming in. I think you're on to the issue. Shortly after installing my Elmod the LED status indicator showed solid red and blue lights, indicating a problem with the sound card. The same problem smittyrob at RCUniverse had. Besides having no sound, I had limited commands with the tank. The turret rotated and cannon elevated and fired but no sound and nothing else worked. The sound card showed all the vehicles and files available when installed on the computer, but showed no current sample set and wouldn't list any options. None could be loaded or changed.
I downloaded older sound firmware per instructions in the Elmod manual as to how to create a new sound card. This fixed the problem and all seemed good. I still didn't have a cannon elevation sound file and had to import one from a panther sound file too. Same as Anthony James at RCUniverse.
I did a update in March of this year for their latest one. If I have the sound card in the board when I update does everything get updated together? Or do I have to have the sound card in the computer and update it separately?
I appreciate your input, you seem to be the man regarding sound files and the Elmod's.
Cheers, Eric
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Postby Jimster » Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:46 pm

He sure is. Pulled my bacon out of the fire many times.

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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:05 pm

Well, now we know the issue was old software.

Update everything;
Download and install the latest Elmod app in your computer, (you can unninstall the current version first)
Download and copy the latest audio pack in your SD card, that includes the newest sound manager.
Download the latest manual from the website, there it says how to update the board software better than I can write it.

If you do that you will have everything updated and you will be able to play those 24 sounds.

Don't forget to include me in your night prayers, lol.
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Postby EAO » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:43 am

Hey there,
After many private messages and head scratching (mostly done by myself) I'm up and running. Problem did seem to be multi layered and probably self created. I just wanted to give a shout out to all those who responded. And a huge thank you to Rad and Jimster. The "Rad School of Tankology" is again working miracles! I know that for me and my computer, electronic challenged brain that without the help from you guys and this forum I'd have a nice static shelf queen instead of an actual functioning RC tank! I also can't forget Thomas at Elmod, fast response to my questions and amazing customer service. A hearty 3 cheers all around!

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Postby Jimster » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:25 am

Always nice to have everything working as it should. I’ve often said that this forum is the most useful tool I have.

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