A new sensible family car maybe...........

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Sensible yes or no :)

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YES, TOTALLY Genius
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Postby Will01Capri » Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:17 pm

I am always looking at cars, probably because i love em!
But at certain stages of life you just need to buy with your head rather than your heart
I am not one to take the easy option or a sensible option, my car history has been rather odd but hey

15years old had a MG Montego to work on
Then got a Fiesta 1.1 for first driving car, a month or so later bought an XR2 and transplanted alot of bits on the 1.1 hahaha
Then it died one night involving alot of water hahahahahaha, it was fun though
Got a Corsa 1.2, what a beast that was lol
Whilst at University decided to buy a 2nd car so had a Ford Capri 2.0GL, that was always fun, always interesting and always breaking, but i loved it. Never had a single journey in that car where it didn't break.... not kidding(should have been the worse car i ever owned!)

I got sensible and traded up to a sensible saloon car as i was driving 350 miles to see my girlfriend for a few years, bought a Alfa 156 GTA with a 3.2 v6, because that is the sensible thing to do when doing alot of long journeys, you buy a car with big engine. Still have it btw 12 years later and is easily the best car i have ever owned. But it is a money pit as they eat money, but is still the most reliable car i have ever owned.
Got married and inherited a Mini Cooper S, yes i had some invovlement encouraging Catherine to buy the S haha. Unfortunately i blew it up, so i rebuilt it sensibly and made the Supercharger sing like mad, that was seriously quick after. But recently sold because it just doesn't work as a family car. We had fun. Probably the least reliable car we have ever owned

Family came along so i bought a Alfa 156 Sportwagon with a dieseasel engine!! Well it was a 5 cylinder diesel engine and it was tampered with alot, it was great. But it broke, maybe went a bit too far with the tampering! whooops
I was being sensible i promise
Then decided to drive around in some other things for a while, but that made me very unhappy, yes Skoda Octavia's do that to me haha
So we bought our first proper sensible family car, hopefully something reliable and comfortable and big enough to cart around the growing family. 5 series BMW, but yes we chose sensibly with the engine and just decided to get the biggest diesel we could and ended up with 535d. What a car. BUT, it has silly air suspension and it keeps annoyingly going flat, maybe one day BMW will fix it, but until then we started on fist name terms at local dealer. LOL

But all of this has got me thinking....... the problem with cars these days are that they are too complicated for their own good. Why do you need lots of toys and gadgets and things and stuff to go wrong. I never buy new, i am normally up for fixing anything, but simple cars are just better. When they go wrong you can see how they broke and they easy to service and maintain and you almost never have to worry.
So what if i were to replace the sensible family car now..................... Well, in which case i would be really sensible and buy this
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202110118373886?model=VXR8&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&sort=price-asc&radius=1500&make=Vauxhall&postcode=dg11ts&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&page=1
It just makes sense
Simple engineered car. Engine, gearbox, wheels and seat. Large enough for family, safe to overtake traffic in, no complicated driving modes or traction control systems, no fancy ride controls, just 4 doors, 4 big seats, big boot SORTED


Should note, I don't have £20k burning a hole in my pocket if I did Catherine would have spent it on a V8 Mustang already lol
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Postby jee » Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:35 pm

well, I advice you something like this:

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simple, robust, lots of space inside :D
Not so very reliable although proper maintenance is helping a lot
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Postby Will01Capri » Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:40 pm

Hahahaha, nice one. Good advice, but probably doesn't meet the bill of safe overtaking, plus I don't want to be fixing all the time haha. I have other cars which need fixing often
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:41 pm

That’s no Vauxhall mate, it’s a Commodore made by GM Holden here.
This continent is awash with them and though I’m a Ford man, agree these are ball-tearing for performance and feel like a mans car.
There are buildings full of enhancement parts here that can blow your mind and your budget for these things.
On eBay here you have a Commodore Not a Vauxhall ok !! A search for that will send you to vintage car parts most likely in New Zealand !!
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Postby General Jumbo01 » Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:42 pm

Yes, so sensible l nearly bought it but then noticed.... It doesn't have the all essential voice controlled entertainment systems on a 12" dash screen.

If you really like simple, why not go electric? There's this guy in Wales that fits modified Tesla motor units into IC cars. Just do that to an old Volvo estate and you're laughing, all the way to the asylum.

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Postby jee » Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:45 pm

Will01Capri wrote:Hahahaha, nice one. Good advice, but probably doesn't meet the bill of safe overtaking, plus I don't want to be fixing all the time haha. I have other cars which need fixing often


you will be perfectly safe while all other cars overtake you Will, don't worry about it :D
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:47 pm

VE Commodore down here.
Clubsport most likely but you will soon tell by looking.
Check out a joint called Chiptorque in Queensland for a start off.
The list of hot ups for them is endless
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Postby Will01Capri » Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:54 pm

General Jumbo01 wrote:Yes, so sensible l nearly bought it but then noticed.... It doesn't have the all essential voice controlled entertainment systems on a 12" dash screen.

If you really like simple, why not go electric? There's this guy in Wales that fits modified Tesla motor units into IC cars. Just do that to an old Volvo estate and you're laughing, all the way to the asylum.

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Simple yes, reliable no.
I have driven the full range of Tesla, BMW e versions and some others. They are a great laugh for 5minutes of fun and then are ultra boring. I suggest every car lover to try one long term.
Batteries having to be replaced or refurbished regularly as companies don't seem to be using software safe charging systems appropriately.
The most fun I had was driving a Model S p100d ludicrous. It was mad.fun, but I was bored soon after. Plus on the back roads round here the electric Tesla seem to go into overheating mode and then start pulling power. Electric is a no for me

Fuel in.my veins lol
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Postby Will01Capri » Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:58 pm

jee wrote:
Will01Capri wrote:Hahahaha, nice one. Good advice, but probably doesn't meet the bill of safe overtaking, plus I don't want to be fixing all the time haha. I have other cars which need fixing often


you will be perfectly safe while all other cars overtake you Will, don't worry about it :D

hahahahahahahhahahahaha good thinking
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Postby Will01Capri » Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:01 pm

HERMAN BIX wrote:VE Commodore down here.
Clubsport most likely but you will soon tell by looking.
Check out a joint called Chiptorque in Queensland for a start off.
The list of hot ups for them is endless


Yeah UK market sold under the Vauxhall brand as no one knows what a Holden is, but yes its a proper GM car
I like cars which don't shout hey look at me, i much rather tear into the distance and someone goes what was that!
Trying to keep sensible head on though, stock power is probably good enough for Cat to get the kids to school, if she had a supercharger i would have to explain to the local police why they couldn't keep up with her lol
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Postby General Jumbo01 » Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:04 pm

What electric cars need is a universal slide in / slide out battery pack facility in two capacities, one for small and one for large vehicles. The driver simply drives up to the automated exchange bay, selects the capacity type and inserts the payment card and the exchanger identifies the battery module, withdraws it and replaces it with a charged one from stock. Takes but a minute to complete.

The packs are like gas bottles, owned by a third party and not the driver or the recharging station. The packs are tested with each recharge and have a guaranteed min charge. The packs are recharged and tested at the station, all automatically.

All car manufacturers design their vehicles to use these packs, no options.

All it would take is an internationally agreed pack design and procedure. And that's where the idea fails because they all want to sell their own solutions and f**k the customer

We know the feeling, how many battle systems have we got? In the mean time we focus on WW3, fighting for a planet that's going down the pan anyway.

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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Fri Oct 15, 2021 3:32 pm

The problem with modern cars is that they're notsimple anymore. The days of intuition, feeler gauges, simple continuity testers,corner motorshop testers (for sparkplugs etc), compression testers and the ubiquitous Haynes manuals are pretty well past, in my experience. These days- the ECUs run the car and, unless you can afford a decent diagnostic unit, fault finding tends to be consigned to dealership garages (and that's the way the likes of Honda, BMW, and so on, prefer it. :/ )
The days of getting all your spares from the breaker's yard are also long past, I think.
I used to base my car world on the 1960s Mini Cooper 'S" (970, 1071 and 1275cc), for decades and later the much maligned MG Metro Turbo, which could have been a great car but for lacklustre building practices, in an industry policed by barrack-room lawyers. Though I've owned many other types, and brands. Then, I shifted to Volvo, and had two 480ES examples, for looks, pop-up headlights and decent performance. These days, I potter round the Honda Civic and Jazz range just for sheer reliability. The need for scintillation disappears (along with many other things), with advancing years. :/
However,
One factor to consider, whether you want something sensible and 'future-proof', or something a bit unusual, and gutsy, is whether it can take E10 fuel. Many cars built before 2011 can't. :thumbdown:
Classics that ran on leaded fuel (the old Coopers etc) needed new valves and hardened valve seats to cope with the switch from leaded to unleaded. The same will be true for more modern cars, with the planned eventual switch to E10 (10 % Ethanol) gas in the pipeline, so to speak. :problem: Such mods could prove to be very expensive.
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Postby jarndice » Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:23 pm

43rdRecceReg wrote:One factor to consider, whether you want something sensible and 'future-proof', or something a bit unusual, and gutsy, is whether it can take E10 fuel. Many cars built before 2011 can't. :thumbdown:
Classics that ran on leaded fuel (the old Coopers etc) needed new valves and hardened valve seats to cope with the switch from leaded to unleaded. The same will be true for more modern cars, with the planned eventual switch to E10 (10 % Ethanol) gas in the pipeline, so to speak. :problem: Such mods could prove to be very expensive.

I have bad news my hero, as from the 1st of last month (September) E10 has been the standard issue petrol on the UKs forecourts.
My issue is with the shortsighted governments throughout the developed world with their single minded concentration on electric vehicles,
That is most certainly not the future of the power unit for cars/trucks/buses. soon and I mean in the next 20 years or less I guarantee that hydrogen fuel cells will takeover as the main power source for these vehicles, Non polluting and no power stations powered by Gas/Coal to provide the electricity that will charge car batteries.
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Postby General Jumbo01 » Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:31 pm

"The need for scintillation disappears (along with many other things), with advancing years. :/"

As you age your ability loses its edge but once behind the wheel one seems to forget that. Behind the bars on a superbike makes it even harder to recall. Hitting the tarmac at 150 or so tends to bring it all home though. I tend to try to keep my spills under 50. They don't hurt for so long ;(

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Postby Model Builder 4 » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:04 pm

As Roy mentioned the metro I thought I'd post a picture of the one I owned :D it was built and sprayed by a friend of mine while he was doing his panel beating and spraying apprenticeship. It was a 1275cc and had a partial metro 6R4 body kit fitted :thumbup:

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Postby General Jumbo01 » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:07 pm

Now that looks fun! Is RC tanks where all car nutters end up? :clap:
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Postby Model Builder 4 » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:14 pm

I swapped it for a MK11 XR2 when my first daughter was born GJ as it was a little more sensible :thumbup:

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Postby Will01Capri » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:20 pm

Model Builder 4 wrote:I swapped it for a MK11 XR2 when my first daughter was born GJ as it was a little more sensible :thumbup:

Cheers,Lee.


Nice one Lee. 6r4 coolness. Mk2.xr2 very cool

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Postby HERMAN BIX » Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:59 pm

Harrop make super chargers, PWR make all the alloy tanks and radiators.
Harrop also do induction upgrade kits as do SS inductions.
Walkinshaw and HSV do all body and engine upgrades, Techno auto sport also do custom tunes that you can buy and flash to your ecu
Just do it, what’s the worst that can happen !!!??
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