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Postby jarndice » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:39 pm

Is there any particular reason why the inbuilt spellchecker on the Forum is set up to accept American English spelling rather than English English Spelling ?
I get a bit fed up when my spelling of Colour for instance is marked as an error when patently it is no such thing.
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Postby Kaczor » Sun Jun 07, 2020 1:12 pm

Spelling is checked not by forum but browser.
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Postby jarndice » Sun Jun 07, 2020 1:41 pm

Kaczor wrote:Spelling is checked not by forum but browser.


WHOSE ???
Certainly not mine.
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Postby Jimster » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:11 pm

I’ve always wondered why we renegade colonists dropped the “u” and spell it color. And why in the heck is aluminum pronounced so wrong in England? And who ever thought knife needed to begin the letter “k”?!

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Postby silversurfer1947 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:14 pm

Jimster wrote:I’ve always wondered why we renegade colonists dropped the “u” and spell it color. And why in the heck is aluminum pronounced so wrong in England? And who ever thought knife needed to begin the letter “k”?!

I guess aluminium was named thus by English chemist, Humphrey Davy to match all the other elements ending in ium. The question is why did our transatlantic cousins choose to drop the final i in aluminium but leave it in all the other elements? Could have been interesting if they had done the same with sodium!
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:15 pm

There's nothing wrong with the English English language, it's other people that can't cope with it.

It's easy, and you will get along fine, if you remember things like. . . .

Read and lead rhyme and read and lead rhyme, but read and lead don't rhyme, and neither do read and lead. See, simple :D
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Postby rochesb » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:22 pm

Two countries, divided by a common language ........

I always found the American use of momentarily confusing...... in the USA it means something will happen in a moment (shortly) whereas in England it means something will happen for a short duration of time.....
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:23 pm

By the way Shaun, you may want to edit your threads title from grammer to grammar :haha:
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Postby Max-U52 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:19 pm

jarndice wrote:Is there any particular reason why the inbuilt spellchecker on the Forum is set up to accept American English spelling rather than English English Spelling ?
I get a bit fed up when my spelling of Colour for instance is marked as an error when patently it is no such thing.


That's easy. The spellchecker knows that Americans are the Greatest so it's sucking up to us. Bwahahaha @) @)
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Postby silversurfer1947 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:32 pm

I can remember a folk concert by the Watersons back in my university days. They were accounting a concert they had given in the US. One of the problems they had was that in America, when someone was randy, it merely meant that his parents had christened him Randolph. There were other examples which were sorely lost in translation, but they have escaped my memory.

On a different topic, why can't our transatlantic friends pronounce laboratory correctly? They always make it sound like what they euphemistically call the bathroom.
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Postby Sub » Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:19 pm

Hi,
Love this topic, in the US my US relatives
Nissan car is pronounced NEEsan, and the country Iraq pronounced EYEraq.

So my question is why dont they pronounce it EERAQ ?. :crazy:
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Postby Max-U52 » Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:28 pm

If you think the every day stuff is strange, try the real estate market. Suddenly a single family home becomes a "detached property", a duplex is a "semi-detached property" a town or row house becomes a "terraced property", a vacation rental becomes a "holiday let", a camping trailer somehow turns into a "caravan", and on and on. When they said we were two great nations separated by a common language they sure weren't kidding. The best bet is to just take it all with a smile. You know, don't get your panties in a bunch. No wait, that's, Don't get your knickers in a twist. @) 8) :haha: :haha:
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:35 pm

The browser spell check may be in Ameri/glish but thank our lucky stars that a Cockney didn’t invent the thing!! :wtf: :crazy:
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Postby Sub » Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:39 pm

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
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Postby Estnische » Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:00 pm

I'm still trying to find some of that sodder so I can finally fix my tank wiring...
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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:13 pm

The rebellious spellings are something we can get accustomed to :/ :D ; but, as I become ever grumpier with age, I find the relatively recent import of 'Valley Girl' speak into British schools, and elsewhere to be entirely exasperating. This 'Uptalking' trend drives me nuts!!! The rising terminal-or 'Uptalk'/'Upspeak'- where all statements begin to sound like questions; where intonation goes up at the end of every phrase, and where all of this is joined together by the extreme misuse and overuse of 'like' @) @)) makes me want to reply with knuckles >:< :D Uptalkers sound vacuous, weak, uncertain- and, er punchable!
As if this emerging trend isn't murdering spoken English enough, a new and hideous twist is 'Valley Speak' being delivered with 'Vocal Fry' (AKA 'Creaky Voice'), where speakers begin to sound like Geiger counters.
Here's an example:
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If you watch any Movies, TV shows, Documentaries, etc., made before the 1990s in the US and UK, you would have heard normal, age-old speech patterns. Sadly, in the last 10-20 years, it appears that
Roy Thinnes' 'Invaders', or Ray Bradbury's 'Bodysnatchers' have taken people over, and replaced them with Uptalking, Geiger-voiced aliens... :O
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Postby Carrion » Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:49 am

done worry in the shires we still speak funny at least when tourists are around and pretend to like weird wood to freak out those from not round ere.

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Postby jarndice » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:25 pm

Max-U52 wrote:If you think the every day stuff is strange, try the real estate market. Suddenly a single family home becomes a "detached property", a duplex is a "semi-detached property" a town or row house becomes a "terraced property", a vacation rental becomes a "holiday let", a camping trailer somehow turns into a "caravan", and on and on. When they said we were two great nations separated by a common language they sure weren't kidding. The best bet is to just take it all with a smile. You know, don't get your panties in a bunch. No wait, that's, Don't get your knickers in a twist. @) 8) :haha: :haha:


Real Estate ??? Ohh you mean Estate Agents :haha:
And if there was a poll held in the USA how many would pronounce Vase as Varze or as VaaaZe, indeed the film "You'Ve got mail has one of the protagonists saying it one way them immediately saying it the other way so our TransAtlantic friends don't appear to have much confidence in the Anglophobe Mr Websters interpretation of the Queens English :lolno:
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Postby Carrion » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:40 pm

Max-U52 wrote:If you think the every day stuff is strange, try the real estate market. Suddenly a single family home becomes a "detached property", a duplex is a "semi-detached property" a town or row house becomes a "terraced property", a vacation rental becomes a "holiday let", a camping trailer somehow turns into a "caravan", and on and on. When they said we were two great nations separated by a common language they sure weren't kidding. The best bet is to just take it all with a smile. You know, don't get your panties in a bunch. No wait, that's, Don't get your knickers in a twist. @) 8) :haha: :haha:


when i was buying my place it was amazing the linguistic lengths the agents would do to get around a very basic set of instructions.

1) bungalow.
2) flat access to it.
3) A drive AND garage
4) Nothing listed (historical preservation orders for the unfamiliar)

So i get offered a property the Eiger would call a bit steep to get to, with no parking or garage that had 3 stories and was a grade 1 list IN a flood zone

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Postby Max-U52 » Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:37 pm

Yeah, I've learned a little bit about listed properties and there's no way you would get me to buy something like that. We have kind of the same thing over here in different cities that have historical societies that want to dictate everything right down to the color you can paint your house. I would never buy something like that. It's my house I'll do what I want to with it and if somebody's going to give me static about it they can just keep it.

And just for the record, I'm glad that Shaun started this thread because I was thinking of starting something similar, except I was going to call it, "Learning to speak English". :haha:
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