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Postby mike57 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:57 pm

hello people, I'm Mike, 61 years old, living in Lowestoft UK. only just bought my first Tank, a Heng Long T72 purely to make an homage to Sabaton's PRIMO VICTORIA. I'm retired due to disability and don't get out much, except for heavy metal concerts! i seem to have taken on a gargantuan task in swapping the electrics from the stock TK 6.0 to a Taigen TK0711. having no knowledge of electronics isn't helping. But after spending almost £500 so far, it has to be done, somehow :D
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Postby Jimster » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:18 pm

Welcome aboard from the USA! I can’t seem to find any info on a Taigen TK0711 but if you’re interested in upgrading your electronics and love music I suggest getting an Elmod board. Then you could add your own sound effects and play music. Imagine Rammstien blasting from your tank as it crawls across the ground.
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Postby mike57 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:32 pm

Jimster wrote:Welcome aboard from the USA! I can’t seem to find any info on a Taigen TK0711 but if you’re interested in upgrading your electronics and love music I suggest getting an Elmod board. Then you could add your own sound effects and play music. Imagine Rammstien blasting from your tank as it crawls across the ground.

thanks, sounds like a plan, once i've figured the current problems out, but I've put a Bluetooth speaker in the tank, so I can play Sabaton!!!

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Postby silversurfer1947 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:39 pm

Do you have any more details for the Taigen electronics? They are usually 2 or V3 which is the latest. I am sure once we have identified exactly what you have to work with, someone on here will be able to point you in the right direction.
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Postby mike57 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:27 pm

silversurfer1947 wrote:Do you have any more details for the Taigen electronics? They are usually 2 or V3 which is the latest. I am sure once we have identified exactly what you have to work with, someone on here will be able to point you in the right direction.

Hi, I think it's the V3 as it's a recent purchase, I assume it's the latest one, the number is TK0711

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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:00 am

Personally, I wouldn't have bothered with the swap from HL tk 6.0 to the Taigen, for the simple reason that I consider the Heng Long board (especially if it's the later 6.1s variant ) is probably a better one than the Taigen. The Taigen V3 gives you the option of using a hobby grade transmitter, and different Tank sound modules but little else. :problem:
Full sound customisation really requires Elmod or similar.

Our Radio (TX) and sounds boffin, Rad (Rad Schuart) is the person to speak to about this.
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Postby mike57 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:12 pm

43rdRecceReg wrote:Personally, I wouldn't have bothered with the swap from HL tk 6.0 to the Taigen, for the simple reason that I consider the Heng Long board (especially if it's the later 6.1s variant ) is probably a better one than the Taigen. The Taigen V3 gives you the option of using a hobby grade transmitter, and different Tank sound modules but little else. :problem:
Full sound customisation really requires Elmod or similar.

Our Radio (TX) and sounds boffin, Rad (Rad Schuart) is the person to speak to about this.


Thanks for the reply, a week into this and I'm thinking you are right, every connection has to be rewired and smoker changed. But now after spending about £200 I have no idea how to rewire it all. I'd have liked to have had programmable sounds as it was only to make a video. The reason for the swap was the sound went on the HL 6.0 and a 'reputable' supplier recommended the Taigen but didn't let me know all the other stuff I'd need and how difficult it was! But I have no choice now but persevere :problem:

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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:59 pm

mike57 wrote:
43rdRecceReg wrote:Personally, I wouldn't have bothered with the swap from HL tk 6.0 to the Taigen, for the simple reason that I consider the Heng Long board (especially if it's the later 6.1s variant ) is probably a better one than the Taigen. The Taigen V3 gives you the option of using a hobby grade transmitter, and different Tank sound modules but little else. :problem:
Full sound customisation really requires Elmod or similar.

Our Radio (TX) and sounds boffin, Rad (Rad Schuart) is the person to speak to about this.


Thanks for the reply, a week into this and I'm thinking you are right, every connection has to be rewired and smoker changed. But now after spending about £200 I have no idea how to rewire it all. I'd have liked to have had programmable sounds as it was only to make a video. The reason for the swap was the sound went on the HL 6.0 and a 'reputable' supplier recommended the Taigen but didn't let me know all the other stuff I'd need and how difficult it was! But I have no choice now but persevere :problem:


Up until V5.3 of the Heng Long system, the wiring on Taigen and HL models was largely identical. There may have been minor differences, here and there, in the colour of the wires; but nothing tricky.
Parts were also largely interchangeable until a few years ago. This isn't the case now, though- as you've discovered. :problem: if it's not too late, you can stick with the HL kit, and flog the Taigen stuff off.
Long term, the best option for sounds would be the Elmod, but I think you can also get more intersting sounds on the IBU Ultimate ed.2.
Others swear by the benedini sound module (Better than swearing at the Taigen module :lolno: )-
http://www.benedini.de
You can find all the wiring digrams you need here on RCTW. I assume you already have one for V6.0 (they come with the tank, these days in addition to the manual),
Taigen provide this:
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Postby mike57 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:13 pm

Thanks, yeah I have that diagram but i still have no idea how to wire it up, as you say, everything is different. the sound has gone on the original TK6.0, and I have no idea if it's the board or receiver at fault. This tank has cost me almost £700 so far and it's useless so throwing more money at it sounds painful. I put another thread up hoping someone would be able to tell me which wire goes where but haven't had any info. It seems I'm the only idiot that has attempted this!

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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:38 pm

You do know there is a volume control on the Heng Long transmitter?
You could have a speaker fault.

As for being an idiot, get to the back of the queue.
And stop beating yourself up about it, you had no prior knowledge about these things, and had no idea of what you were getting into.
And unfortunately, you have entered the hobby where straight control board swaps are becoming a thing of the past, and there's less knowledge available about what you require.
As for purchasing other more expensive boards, you would still be back to square one with them, although there is more knowledge about them available.
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Postby mike57 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:43 pm

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mike57 wrote:Thanks, yeah I have that diagram but i still have no idea how to wire it up, as you say, everything is different. the sound has gone on the original TK6.0, and I have no idea if it's the board or receiver at fault. This tank has cost me almost £700 so far and it's useless so throwing more money at it sounds painful. I put another thread up hoping someone would be able to tell me which wire goes where but haven't had any info. It seems I'm the only idiot that has attempted this!

I did a drawing or the V6 board and numbered all the connections to it then a drawing of the Taigen board and asked which wires from the V6 board went to which pins on the taigen, I thought that would be easy for someone who knows about electronics, but so far no one has offered a solution!

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Postby mike57 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:46 pm

Son of a gun-ner wrote:You do know there is a volume control on the Heng Long transmitter?
You could have a speaker fault.

As for being an idiot, get to the back of the queue.
And stop beating yourself up about it, you had no prior knowledge about these things, and had no idea of what you were getting into.
And unfortunately, you have entered the hobby where straight control board swaps are becoming a thing of the past, and there's less knowledge available about what you require.
As for purchasing other more expensive boards, you would still be back to square one with them, although there is more knowledge about them available.

Thanks, how can I get the original one tested? If there's an easy fix for that that would be brilliant, I could then sell all the Taigen stuff and have a working tank at last!

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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:01 pm

Do you know where the volume control is on the controller?
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Postby mike57 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:05 pm

Son of a gun-ner wrote:Do you know where the volume control is on the controller?

yes, it's marked V but does nothing, it seems like a very cheap bit of kit, compared to the Taigen

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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:08 pm

Did you check the speaker connection with the control board?

Do you have a multi meter?
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Postby mike57 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:19 pm

Son of a gun-ner wrote:Did you check the speaker connection with the control board?

Do you have a multi meter?

The connection seemed fine, I only used the tank once, just to play around with it when I first took it out of the box, then it was painted over a few weeks, once I got the 3D figure made and painted, tried it again and no sound. I do have a multi meter

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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:25 pm

It may be an idea to check the speaker wires, where they connect to the speaker and plug in the board, if no joy, see if the speaker is getting any usable voltage, I'm guessing at around 5 volts
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:26 pm

I've basically just looked at tanks and wires have come adrift :{
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:31 pm

You may have to use the button on the controller between checking for voltage available to the speaker. This way we can find out if the speaker is dead, or whether the board is supplying the speaker.
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Postby mike57 » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:43 pm

Son of a gun-ner wrote:I've basically just looked at tanks and wires have come adrift :{

wires look fine, zero voltage at the speaker socket on the board

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