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Postby Herr Dr. Professor » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:57 pm

Hello grek2000: Like the others, I would encourage you to keep communicating with these helpful folks and upgrade your tanks. I understand that it is scary to do so when the tanks are unfamiliar, but, hey, even I learned how to do so years ago. :)

I have all the crystal numbers, 1 through10, from when I had HengLong tanks, and I would be happy to send them to you, but the cost of shipping them from the US would be greater than buying a new pair of crystals for each tank. In fact, it might be greater than the cost of upgrading the tanks. Anyway, if you do want to buy crystals, they are not too expensive. Here's an example from a shop in Germany:

https://heng-long-panzer.de/en/RC-Electronics---Batteries/Heng-Long-RC-Elektronics/RC-Heng-Long-Crystals/

Whatever you choose, do not become discouraged and give up. All these tanks can be repaired and made to run smoothly, and the help you need is right here on this discussion forum.
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:57 pm

Like I said before, ABC tanks only work with ABC controllers.

Crystal tanks only work with Crystal controllers.

But you should be able to use any of your crystal controllers with any of your crystal tanks, providing the two crystals are the same number, and the one in the controller has Tx and the one in the tank has Rx.

I once purchased a Bulldog with 01 in the controller, and 03 in the tank. I just bought a pair of crystals with a different number than I already had.
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Postby grek2000 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:17 pm

Son of a gun-ner wrote:Like I said before, ABC tanks only work with ABC controllers.

Crystal tanks only work with Crystal controllers.

But you should be able to use any of your crystal controllers with any of your crystal tanks, providing the two crystals are the same number, and the one in the controller has Tx and the one in the tank has Rx.

I once purchased a Bulldog with 01 in the controller, and 03 in the tank. I just bought a pair of crystals with a different number than I already had.


Thanx for a reply. Thats I want to do in my free time. Buy a pair of crystal for panzer 3 .

Thank you for reply.

If I would not ask you I will never know why the tanks does not work. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:28 pm

We still don't know if they work until you try them. You can move the crystals from tank to tank to find out if the tanks work before spending any money :thumbup:

You're welcome :thumbup:
It is probably best to see these tanks function, and find out if they all work or not. Then when you see the old electronics are lacking with accurate or smooth control, then consider upgrading if you feel this hobby is for you, and you want to spend lots of money on it ;)
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Postby silversurfer1947 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:45 pm

This is possibly a stupid question, but have you tried the Tx with the 01 crystal with the tank with the 01 crystal?
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Postby grek2000 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:54 pm

two tanks are working

walker bulldog is working with 01 controller from panzer and pershing

Panzer has wrong controller 3 and 1 crystals

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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:05 pm

grek2000 wrote:two tanks are working

walker bulldog is working with 01 controller from panzer and pershing

Panzer has wrong controller 3 and 1 crystals

You can now take one of the 01 crystals out of one of the working tanks and fit it in the Panzer. Remove the 03 Crystal to replace it with an 01 then try the the two crystal controllers with it to see if the panzer now works :thumbup:
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Postby grek2000 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:16 am

Son of a gun-ner wrote:
grek2000 wrote:two tanks are working

walker bulldog is working with 01 controller from panzer and pershing

Panzer has wrong controller 3 and 1 crystals

You can now take one of the 01 crystals out of one of the working tanks and fit it in the Panzer. Remove the 03 Crystal to replace it with an 01 then try the the two crystal controllers with it to see if the panzer now works :thumbup:



Thats good idea

But all three tanks will be working with one controller.

Yesterday evening when I was swiching off bulldog pershing start on. Little mess.

But the idea to start panzer with 1 crystal is good.

I have abc switch underneath each tank whats that for..

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Postby jarndice » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:45 am

grek2000 wrote:

Thats good idea

But all three tanks will be working with one controller.

Yesterday evening when I was swiching off bulldog pershing start on. Little mess.

But the idea to start panzer with 1 crystal is good.

I have abc switch underneath each tank whats that for..

Thanks

Greg

And that is one very good reason to upgrade to 2.4 Digital because you will not mistakenly crash a Tank on the same frequency because there is no conflict of frequencies in 2.4 digital :thumbup:
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:19 am

grek2000 wrote:1, But all three tanks will be working with one controller.

2, Yesterday evening when I was swiching off bulldog pershing start on. Little mess.

But the idea to start panzer with 1 crystal is good.

3, I have abc switch underneath each tank whats that for..

Thanks

Greg

One, this way you will find out whether the Panzer actually works.

Two, make sure you turn off tanks when not in use.

Three. I mentioned something about this earlier in this thread. They changed the three position ABC switch to a two position on off switch for a smoker when they changed to crystals.
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Postby grek2000 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:03 pm

Ok guys

I have phoned the auction supervisor and made complaint earlier by emial with explanation on the tanks and ask him to resolve it.

Suprisingly he was happy to help either he has controllers in the store and he was happy to call other bidders.

Question for you guys how the controller for bulldog walker with crystal 1 will look like and how the controller for panzer 3 with crystal 3 will lool like.

Thanks in advance.

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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:50 pm

The controllers will look like either of these.
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It all depends on age, the silver one is slightly older than the black one.
Best thing is for you to try both these controllers with all three tanks. Then make a note of which one works with which tank. Then you will know which one to get. All controllers and tanks work with any matching pair of crystals.
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Postby grek2000 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:16 pm

Hi guys

I have couple of question about the tank its walker bulldog

1. whats that on/off switch on the top of the tank for.

2. I have smoke traces on the back - how can I make him smoke?

3. whats that switch abc at the bottom for

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Postby grek2000 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:24 pm

The same question about the Pershing

1. switch on/off
2. smoke traces - how to make it work.

ThANKS A LOT :thumbup:
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Postby grek2000 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:32 pm

Hi Guys

How do I put smoke oil in the tank. I dont have manuals.

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