Brass stock sizes for scratch builds

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Postby jimbo_wa » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:06 pm

Can anyone confirm the brass stock sizes required for scratch building jerry can holders and the like?

I’m thinking that 2-3mm should do the trick in flat, right angle and c-channel sections.

I’ve used K&S Metals for other scale projects in the past, and B&Q has decent tube too.


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Postby midlife306 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:18 pm

Simple to work out really,
2mm x 16 = 32mm in real life
3mm x 16 = 48mm
B&Q has odd bits but it’s usually bent to death.
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Postby jimbo_wa » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:24 pm

Thanks Midlife, maths isn’t a strong point so validation is appreciated!

Yep, B&Q bent specials usually get a decent discount...


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Postby ronnie42 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:26 pm

Do a search for Albion Alloys they have lots of stuff in brass.

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Postby midlife306 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:30 pm

jimbo_wa wrote:Thanks Midlife, maths isn’t a strong point so validation is appreciated!

Yep, B&Q bent specials usually get a decent discount...


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But you’re from Cambridge!!!


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Postby jimbo_wa » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:23 pm

midlife306 wrote:
But you’re from Cambridge!!!



Closer to Haverhill really, Geography seems a bit weak too...




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Postby jimbo_wa » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:25 pm

ronnie42 wrote:Do a search for Albion Alloys they have lots of stuff in brass.


Ta Ronnie, found loads of it on eBay and quite a few pot luck off cut auctions that could be useful.

Probably best to just buy what I need though!


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Postby BarryC » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:58 am

I use both K&S and Albion Alloys both manufactures of good quality brass sheets and shapes.

As for determining size, unless you have one close by to measure then it's going to be an "educated guess". I reference photos then base it on how it fits to your tank or in this case the "Jerry Can".

I do a lot of scratch building using brass so I keep a large variety of shapes, sheets in a assortment of sizes.

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Postby jimbo_wa » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:15 am

Wow Barry, talented metal work!

I already have a stock of styrene and happily used it in the past, but never integrated brass details before. Is there a preferred supplier for the bolts and hinges, or do you scratch build them too?

However, I’m getting ahead of myself as my first tank bits won’t arrive until Friday...


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Postby jarndice » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:23 am

Hi, I buy all my small nuts,bolts and washers plus lots of other bits and pieces from------------
http://www.prime-miniatures.co.uk/
Very fast delivery and Dom is always ready to listen out for anything that is not listed.
For hinges I go to ---------
http://www.littlegreenworkshop.co.uk/page122.html
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Postby jimbo_wa » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:32 am

jarndice wrote:Hi, I buy all my small nuts,bolts and washers plus lots of other bits and pieces from------------
http://www.prime-miniatures.co.uk/
Very fast delivery and Dom is always ready to listen out for anything that is not listed.
For hinges I go to ---------
http://www.littlegreenworkshop.co.uk/


Oh. My. Cheezus...

I'd seen Dom's eBay shop that has a couple of items, but that is an overdraft waiting to happen.

Wish I hadn't asked now! :crazy:

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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:06 pm

jimbo_wa wrote:Oh. My. Cheezus...

I'd seen Dom's eBay shop that has a couple of items, but that is an overdraft waiting to happen.

Wish I hadn't asked now! :crazy:

Thank you (I think) jarndice

In that case, sorry to do this to you Mr jimbo_wa. . . .

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Postby jimbo_wa » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:45 pm

Son of a gun-ner wrote:
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Come on, play fair!

This '£100' tank is going to be the ruin of me...

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Postby BarryC » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:48 pm

jimbo_wa wrote:Wow Barry, talented metal work!

I already have a stock of styrene and happily used it in the past, but never integrated brass details before. Is there a preferred supplier for the bolts and hinges, or do you scratch build them too

However, I’m getting ahead of myself as my first tank bits won’t arrive until Friday...


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I get all of my "non functional/simulated" brass hardware as well as the smaller functional nuts and bolts here:
https://model-motorcars.myshopify.com/c ... ware/bolts

I also use Master Models cast resin Nuts & Bolts in areas of non stress.
http://www.hobbyworld-usa.com/Store/ind ... r=category

All the hinges you see are scratch built from sheet brass annealed and bent to shape over brass rod. I also use brass tubing cut to length and attached to brass sheet or bar.

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Postby jimbo_wa » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:14 am

Thanks again Barry.

As they’re US based I think that shipping to the UK would be prohibitive, but it’s always good to have options!


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Postby HERMAN BIX » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:14 pm

No, no......Its actually what you need to do with the stuff once you have it thats the prohibitive bit 8O
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Each of his years are fifty of ours,his eyes are the size of dinner plates, he has no nerve endings, and I am very concerned that he will be repatriated to his home planet before his Abrams is finished..............
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Postby jarndice » Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:00 pm

I assume Herman that you know all this because you are from Area 53 :haha:

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