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Re: Anybody know how to -stop- buying tanks?

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It's a nice haul...

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The Tiger I, Pantiger and M41 Walker Bulldog all run on the old 27Mhz sets with Ye Olde School crystals. Yay! Only got 2 radios, but that's not a problem.

The Pantiger is a non-runner so it's going on the shelf for now. Previous owner killed the nylon gearbox after he had upgraded it to metal tracks and drive wheels. Then replaced the gearbox with white-metal one... but the wrong type. So the tracks are splaying out. So it needs a new gearbox -again-, but the right type. Might go for steel if I decide to fix it. Or put in the nylon one from my grey Tiger I, which is getting a steel one...

Not that it really matters tho... after he replaced the gearbox the tank would not come on anymore, like electronically. Maybe he knocked out a plug somewhere or fried something while tinkering. So, this is going to be a project tank. I am not too bothered about the whole "Pantiger" thing, so I might fix it up and run it "as is". Or indeed make something whiffery from it. I -might- hit it with a new radio set, either pop in a TK6.0 receiver or one of the TK5.2 sets that is coming out of the KV-1 or the Leopard.

The sand-coloured Tiger I is a runner, with the 27Mhz set. Everything works and eventho it is limited by the techonology, it is a fun machine. Repainted by the previous owner, and a good candidate for a quick upgrade with one of the TK5.2 sets that will be going spare. Might leave it "as is" after the radio upgrade, turn it into a Sturmtiger (with a lot of scratchbuilding), turn it into something whiffery or just clean it up and sell it on. My neighbour's kid keeps drooling when I drive past with my tanks... With 125 euros payed for the lot I might just sell it and get my money back... ;D

The Walker Bulldog also works all around. Running on the 27Mhz set, everything checks out. I like the sounds that come with the old RX-18 sets. The M41 sounds just right for a Cold War tanks having a cold morning start-up. For now my plan is to fix it up nicely and run it on the 27Mhz set. Some of the tiny detail parts are broken and/or missing, but I can probably scratchbuild a lot of it, or pick it up somewhere cheap online. And yet again it might get upgrade with an old TK5.2 set from either the KV-1 or the Leopard, or get a new TK6.0 receiver/set.

Anyway, a lot of fun project time in my future.

That said... I have a lot of projects to consider now. First finish the two Shermans. Those are going well, and should be fun to finish.

After that I might tackle the Leopard, which involves taking the TK7.0 set out off the Panzer IV and stick a TK6.0s set into that one. Then putting the TK7.0 set into the Leopard, along with a new steel gearbox and the TK7.0 IR gubbins. Fix the track tension and the road wheels. Might fix the turret rotation (it's waaaaay to slow for a Leopard) and I have been looking at some other cool stuff, like a new rear light cluster with indicators and brake lights and an automated weapons system for the turret.
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Description says it's "For: 1/16 Leopard2A6 3889 RC Tank TK16 Main Board With Weapon Station Function After July 2021". Which TK is that?

Well, anyway... plenty of work, and that's not counting the Tiger I needing a steel gearbox and the KV-1 needing upgrading to TK6.0s...

TTFN,
Rob
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Re: Anybody know how to -stop- buying tanks?

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I'm trying my best not to pick up any 27mhz cheap tanks because I know that it will cost me a fair bit to upgrade the electronics.
The pantiger was bought on a spur of the moment and I learnt my lesson! Luckily was only £60.

You say he broke the nylon threads on the Tiger because he fitted metal tracks? I'm doing this on my KT and was wondering if the standard gears would hold up or not

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NAB wrote:I'm trying my best not to pick up any 27mhz cheap tanks because I know that it will cost me a fair bit to upgrade the electronics...... You say he broke the nylon threads on the Tiger because he fitted metal tracks? I'm doing this on my KT and was wondering if the standard gears would hold up or not
Well, on the electronics; considering you already own at least one transmitter (from your other tanks) and they will bind to any MFU of the right version, you could consider just buying MFUs. And invest in a box of Dupont connectors and the other kind (can't off the top of my head remember the name of the white ones) and a set of crimpers for said connectors. Wire is dirt cheap, and a little study will let you make your own wires. With a little searching on AliExpress you can get a MFU for under 30 dollars.

Well, the general opinion among "those who know" (and mind you, this is the internet, so -everybody- knows better than you... ;D ) is that when you upgrade to heavy metal track you should upgrade to steel (not white metal) because the drag on the gearbox will inevitably strip the nylon teeth on the gears.

And the reason for steel and not white metal is because again according to "those who know" in some cases nylon lasts longer than white metal. So there's that... Still following me?

How much of that is "true"? Well, it's the internet, full of "experts". Your milage may vary. I'm going to replace nylon gearboxes with steel where-ever it's (in my own opinion) the right thing to do. And also because in a lot of cases the price difference between white metal and steel is not that bad. In for a penny, in for a pound. It's not like I can get into -more- trouble with SWMBO for buying tank stuff...

TTFN,
Rob
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Just to clarify, the nylon gear sets have a very crude form of 'clutch' that will allow some slip before stripping. (like I often do when 3-sheets to the wind trying to get into bed quietly after an unchaperoned night out :/ )
The pot metal gear sets dont have any resemblance of a clutch, they just decide to strip if overloaded without warning over time (again, refer above :shh: )
Both variants are affected by things like weight, load and age.(aren't we all :shifty: )

The genuine steel gear sets are just that, steel. Noisy, but able to cope with a lot of remorseless flogging ( :problem: yeah, I'm not going to go there :think: )

Moral of the story is that they all begin delivering 'steel gear ' performance, but quickly descend into unannounced & very disappointing failure.................. :{
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HERMAN BIX wrote:...quickly descend into unannounced & very disappointing failure.................. :{
There's a joke there, but I'm not gonna make it... ;D
But thanks for the info, that makes a lot of sense. But what is the end conclusion? Nylon gears, white metal gears, steel gears... what when and how?
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steel gears.
That way no matter the accessories or abuse, at least the gears will hold.
HL JAGDPANTHER,HL TIGER 1,HL PzIII MUNITIONSCHLEPPER, HL KT OCTOPUS,HL PANTHER ZU-FUSS,HL STuG III,HL T34/85 BEDSPRING,
HL PZIV MALTA,MATORRO JAGDTIGER,HL F05 TIGER,TAMIYA KT,HL PANTHERDOZER,HL EARLY PANTHER G,TAIGEN/RAMINATOR T34/76,
HL AN-BRI-RAM SU-85
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HERMAN BIX wrote:steel gears.
That way no matter the accessories or abuse, at least the gears will hold.
Yeah, that was my thinking as well... then again, I do have this slight tendency to over-engineer stuff anyway

Heck... my pants are on fire again... OKAY OKAY!!! I OVERENGINEER LIKE A MOFO!! ;D
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john1970 wrote:Buying tanks isn't the problem its finding somewhere to put them
Yeah for sure and also not looking insane to the females out there lol. Well, I am just kidding or am I? :crazy:

Really though, these 1/16 tanks are big and take up a great deal of room. But the ones that are available today are pretty sweet!

I do not know how to stop the obsession and my wife said to me the other day as I was viewing scale model tanks online, that is "model porn" yes? :eh:
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Yip, it is :shifty: :shh:
HL JAGDPANTHER,HL TIGER 1,HL PzIII MUNITIONSCHLEPPER, HL KT OCTOPUS,HL PANTHER ZU-FUSS,HL STuG III,HL T34/85 BEDSPRING,
HL PZIV MALTA,MATORRO JAGDTIGER,HL F05 TIGER,TAMIYA KT,HL PANTHERDOZER,HL EARLY PANTHER G,TAIGEN/RAMINATOR T34/76,
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Rob1970 wrote:It's a nice haul...

Image

The Tiger I, Pantiger and M41 Walker Bulldog all run on the old 27Mhz sets with Ye Olde School crystals. Yay! Only got 2 radios, but that's not a problem.

The Pantiger is a non-runner so it's going on the shelf for now. Previous owner killed the nylon gearbox after he had upgraded it to metal tracks and drive wheels. Then replaced the gearbox with white-metal one... but the wrong type. So the tracks are splaying out. So it needs a new gearbox -again-, but the right type. Might go for steel if I decide to fix it. Or put in the nylon one from my grey Tiger I, which is getting a steel one...

Not that it really matters tho... after he replaced the gearbox the tank would not come on anymore, like electronically. Maybe he knocked out a plug somewhere or fried something while tinkering. So, this is going to be a project tank. I am not too bothered about the whole "Pantiger" thing, so I might fix it up and run it "as is". Or indeed make something whiffery from it. I -might- hit it with a new radio set, either pop in a TK6.0 receiver or one of the TK5.2 sets that is coming out of the KV-1 or the Leopard.

The sand-coloured Tiger I is a runner, with the 27Mhz set. Everything works and eventho it is limited by the techonology, it is a fun machine. Repainted by the previous owner, and a good candidate for a quick upgrade with one of the TK5.2 sets that will be going spare. Might leave it "as is" after the radio upgrade, turn it into a Sturmtiger (with a lot of scratchbuilding), turn it into something whiffery or just clean it up and sell it on. My neighbour's kid keeps drooling when I drive past with my tanks... With 125 euros payed for the lot I might just sell it and get my money back... ;D

The Walker Bulldog also works all around. Running on the 27Mhz set, everything checks out. I like the sounds that come with the old RX-18 sets. The M41 sounds just right for a Cold War tanks having a cold morning start-up. For now my plan is to fix it up nicely and run it on the 27Mhz set. Some of the tiny detail parts are broken and/or missing, but I can probably scratchbuild a lot of it, or pick it up somewhere cheap online. And yet again it might get upgrade with an old TK5.2 set from either the KV-1 or the Leopard, or get a new TK6.0 receiver/set.

Anyway, a lot of fun project time in my future.

That said... I have a lot of projects to consider now. First finish the two Shermans. Those are going well, and should be fun to finish.

After that I might tackle the Leopard, which involves taking the TK7.0 set out off the Panzer IV and stick a TK6.0s set into that one. Then putting the TK7.0 set into the Leopard, along with a new steel gearbox and the TK7.0 IR gubbins. Fix the track tension and the road wheels. Might fix the turret rotation (it's waaaaay to slow for a Leopard) and I have been looking at some other cool stuff, like a new rear light cluster with indicators and brake lights and an automated weapons system for the turret.
Image
Description says it's "For: 1/16 Leopard2A6 3889 RC Tank TK16 Main Board With Weapon Station Function After July 2021". Which TK is that?

Well, anyway... plenty of work, and that's not counting the Tiger I needing a steel gearbox and the KV-1 needing upgrading to TK6.0s...

TTFN,
Rob
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