Some help with the scale.

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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:47 pm

Hi guys, I've seen some nice warbirds in hobbyking, but I can't find the scale, just the size in milimeters. Roughly they seem to have 3 sizes, one about 800mm, other in 1100mm and the last that I think may be too big in 1600mm

Which one would be the closest to our tank's scale?

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Postby HERMAN BIX » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:57 pm

I've also looked at various aircraft for display really.
I googled the normal wingspan of the popular makes (real life ones) took them to the shop & divided by 16, then measured the models.
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Postby silversurfer1947 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:15 pm

If it helps any, a P51 Mustang has a wingspan of 11m, which equates to 688mm. On the German side, a Messerschmitt Bf109e had a wingspan of 9.91m which scales down to 619mm. Both obviously scaled down to 1/16th.
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Postby jarndice » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:47 pm

I build 1/9 and 1/10 scale R/C aircraft and the wingspan on these is between 1500mm and 1600mm.
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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:22 pm

Thanks for your help, guys. :)
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Postby Arthur89777 » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:06 pm

Maybe you can build plane by your own, like this one
http://www.rcfair.com/52052/blogs/view_entry/14200/
That way you can select scale you want. Just make your choise)
If you have some questions, reply me. I'll be glad to chat)

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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:10 pm

Arthur89777 wrote:Maybe you can build plane by your own, like this one
http://www.rcfair.com/52052/blogs/view_entry/14200/
That way you can select scale you want. Just make your choise)
If you have some questions, reply me. I'll be glad to chat)


My godness, what a impresive build!

Now I have a lot of different proyects in the desk, but when I finish some of them I probarbly give you a call, thanks!
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Postby Arthur89777 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:08 pm

Hello again)
I see you liked the article I'd shared with you)
So, how do you see this one?
http://www.rcfair.com/blogs/view_entry/13643/

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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:08 pm

Arthur89777 wrote:Hello again)
I see you liked the article I'd shared with you)
So, how do you see this one?
http://www.rcfair.com/blogs/view_entry/13643/


That one is even cooler! Im still messing around with the idea of making one at our tanks scale but my lack of hability and knowledge stops me beginning.

I also saw this one: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/stor ... ghter.html

it is almost at 1/16 scale so its size is perfect. The only problem is that it does not have landing wheels, but for a beginner might be great and I always can salvage the motors for making my own aircraft.
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Postby Arthur89777 » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:15 pm

Hmmm.... That's nice one) And you had found good use of it's motor))
I think this plane you'll like too))
How do you see it?
http://www.rcfair.com/blogs/view_entry/13303/

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Postby Oxotnik » Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:30 pm

I'm an warbirder primarily. Just for reference here are some wingspans that'd be 1/16 scale:

Spitfire: 700 mm
P-51: 700 mm
Me-109: 620 mm
FW-190: 660 mm
ME-262: 800 mm

Hobbyking and FMS have a line of warbirds in the 900mm range (which are usually built for speed). The Horizon Hobby Ultra Micros are in the 450mm range (~1/25 scale). So, you're going to be really hard pressed to find a 1/16 RC warbird off the shelf.
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Postby jarndice » Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:36 pm

Hi "OX" My smallest wingspan warbird (FW-190 Butcherbird) is 1200mm but my favourite which strictly speaking is not a warbird although my experience with it was in the service is a 1500mm wing span DHC 2 Beaver which fly's like a dream and with a chip fitted into the flap wiring makes STOL (and the flaps) totally controllable.
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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:16 pm

Hello Oxotnik and welcome, its funny you are resurrecting the thread, because today I just planned to do it.

I must say thanks to some mod in this forum (I dont remember who, but he had a nick with green letters back in the day) I found the marvelous Guillows kits. So there are some warbirds on 1:16 scale. The ones highly recommended are the ones with the "Laser cut" name on it. The cut its so clean that its a pleasure to assemble.

Another coincicende, just today I just begun building a P 40 which I plan to RC it, with sounds and lights. I will keep you posted when I have news, but its going to take me some time. But I have my oeyes over a BF109 too.

Good to have you here, Oxotnik, because I know I am going to ask you a lot of questions. First of all to have some tips about how to install the servos in the plane and make them unoticeable (I mean, with no hornes in the ailerons and so on)
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Postby silversurfer1947 » Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:14 pm

In all modesty, I think it could have been me. I remember posting about a 1/16 Messerschmitt Bf109 way back.
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Postby Oxotnik » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:33 am

Son of a gun-ner wrote:. Wow Mr Oxotnik, what a refreshing change from the last new member, straight in for the kill with useful information :thumbup: glad you could spare the bytes ;)

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I hope to occasionally be able to post some useful information. :-)
I'm really passionate about model warbirds and could blather on for days about them.

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Postby Oxotnik » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:52 am

jarndice wrote:Hi "OX" My smallest wingspan warbird (FW-190 Butcherbird) is 1200mm but my favourite which strictly speaking is not a warbird although my experience with it was in the service is a 1500mm wing span DHC 2 Beaver which fly's like a dream and with a chip fitted into the flap wiring makes STOL (and the flaps) totally controllable.
Shaun.

Shaun,
I love Würgers!! I have three Fw-190 A models in 1100mm. My favorite prop warbird is probably the Dora, the FW-190D9. I have an ME-262 Schwalbe in 1500mm, with ducted fans. Talk about a beautiful bird! Wow! I also love my 1600mm P-38L... grace in the skies. My newest addition to my fleet is a 1600mm Spitfire. With those big elliptical wings, it looks huge. I tried to attach a couple photos, but being the newbie that I am to this site, I'm not sure that I've figured out how to do it. Here's a link to a YouTube video of a recent flight of my Schwalbe: https://youtu.be/Zr4DeGwkJP8

Hope that I'm not going too far off-topic. I can blather on for days about these beautiful aircraft.

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Postby Oxotnik » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:14 am

Rad_Schuhart wrote:Hello Oxotnik and welcome, its funny you are resurrecting the thread, because today I just planned to do it.

Good to have you here, Oxotnik, because I know I am going to ask you a lot of questions. First of all to have some tips about how to install the servos in the plane and make them unoticeable (I mean, with no hornes in the ailerons and so on)

Thanks, Sgt. Schuhart. I'll be happy to chat about building techniques. As you've already realized, there are some real challenges in completely encasing servos, pushrods, and control horns within a wing.

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Postby jarndice » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:48 am

Chuck, the site you are on is for R/C Aircraft so you are nowhere near off topic, :thumbup:
just keep it coming, :clap:
I bless the day that the Communist country that is China discovered the capitalist running dogs economic system and decided to export affordable R/C Armour and Aircraft to the unenlightened folks in the West :haha: :haha:
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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:39 am

Thanks mate, Im going to send you a private message right now.
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Postby Oxotnik » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:51 pm

jarndice wrote:Chuck, the site you are on is for R/C Aircraft so you are nowhere near off topic, :thumbup:
just keep it coming, :clap:
I bless the day that the Communist country that is China discovered the capitalist running dogs economic system and decided to export affordable R/C Armour and Aircraft to the unenlightened folks in the West :haha: :haha:
Shaun.

Yep, the market has exploded due to Chinese manufacturing! I think that the EU has to pay more for Chinese products (when ordered direct from China) than the US, due to the VAT. I have a feeling that our VAT equivalent is not too far off though.

The downside... Chinese quality. You get what you pay for. Soft metal screws, crappy servos, weak solder joints, and the list goes on. For most of the components in a Chinese-made kit, you can't even get specs, other than the very basics. In ground RC vehicles, it's not so bad. The replacements are cheap. If the car or tank stops working, it just stops. In the RC aircraft world, we have to try to screen these latent failures out before take off. Once in the air, the loss of a speed controller, receiver, or servo could be disastrous. My closest call with disaster was when I was flying a 1.1m FW-190A. For takeoff, I'd just advanced the throttle, when I heard a screech. I stopped the takeoff, and when I bumped the throttle again to bring the Würger back to the pits,it started smoking from the battery compartment. A solder joint on the speed controller had broken and had shorted. Luckily, only the speed controller had died. If the ESC short had happened 15 seconds later, I'd have been airborne and would probably have watched my poor Butcherbird dive to its death.
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