IS-2M "BRUTE OF THE PROLETARIAT"

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Postby HERMAN BIX » Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:37 am

I have had this magnificent Taigen JS-2 supplied with the usual magical service from the team at Forgebear Tanks, for a while now.
Deciding when it gets done is a result of what its going to be!
To get parts, not to get parts, if so whats needed, and then the research begins to help make the decision :crazy:
Two options sprung to mind during the SU152 build :

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To work.......................................
The Taigen version of the JS 2 has had a few threads in here, Mr painless has a very good one for example, and Mr Mekker is still in progress with his, and Mr Hugill made a start.
As is the theme with my ones, I am looking for a very bashed up version that the newsreels often show with huge spans of guards missing, and those that remain are twisted to buggery. Lots of bits & pieces tied onto it, and depending on the time slot its is set in- loot on the rear deck.
The sole version with the mine roller fitted is like a magnet to me, but I need to think practical as well. Travelling with it, securing it/removing it etc etc, just not really ideal for a regular runner in the context of our set up here at shows.

First order for me is to remove the external details, like saw, shovel and the fuel tanks so i can get to the guards. A testament to Mr Forgebears integrity is that he was genuinely concerned that sending one of these all the way down here could break bits off................in fact exactly the bits I'm about to tear off the thing !! It arrived in perfect order thanks to his packaging, now Im going to do what the post did not :wtf:

As to removing the detail bits, the infamous H/L glue monkey has a father that works in Taigen :problem:
The on/off switch has to be relocated too, great to have it under the engine deck hatch, but that cannot be opened until the turret is turned to 90 degrees from the hull, an oxymoron if ever there was.
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Postby Jimster » Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:36 am

That is indeed a beast of a tank. I look forward to seeing you apply your magic touch to it. And thumbs up to Forgebear for the most professional packaging and shipping.
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:23 am

Thanks Mr Jimster, I suppose now I'm buried deep in this project already................. :problem:

When you look at a plate of bacon & eggs, and consider the level of contribution that both ingredients took to be made................. :think:
The Chicken - was involved
The Pig- was Committed !!!!!!!!

Me, with a model that cost me a thousand bucks to get hold of............... 8O
COMMITTED !

The Wife walked past & casually remarked "new project eh, which one is that your making all the noise on ?"
"Its that one we got (notice the we thrown in)from England a year ago"
Well, all I can print here is a stream of Morse code bleeps that spelled out
"you spend a grand on a model & now you've cut half of it off you idiot :wtf: " (edited for G rating :shifty: )

Ahh well, at least its not a Tamiya version at $1600AUD I'm smashing into eh ;)
More training required by the looks :shh:
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:02 pm

https://warspot.net/321-is-2m-small-mod ... large-tank

A bit of insight into the JS/IS development.
I think I've decided on the one I will base mine on .......................
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Postby PainlessWolf » Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:47 pm

Herman!
Happy Holidays! The IS-2 from Torro is remarkably well done right out of the Box. I had to look around to find details to add to mine to help it shine even more ( crew and turret MG(s) mostly) as a Depot Fresh tank. I know that you will achieve the battle worn finish you are looking for. You are noted for bringing the battlefield to the vehicle. Following along!
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Postby Ad Lav » Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:18 pm

You love your Russian armour at the moment!

Look forward to the progress of cutting and being told off!
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Postby Jimster » Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:20 pm

By the way, that’s some crazy track sag on the prototype photo!
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:00 am

PainlessWolf wrote:Herman!
Happy Holidays! The IS-2 from Torro is remarkably well done right out of the Box. I had to look around to find details to add to mine to help it shine even more ( crew and turret MG(s) mostly) as a Depot Fresh tank. I know that you will achieve the battle worn finish you are looking for. You are noted for bringing the battlefield to the vehicle. Following along!
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Thanks Mr Wolf, thats a nice way of putting it !
Everyone has a 'thing' that they like, mines more of a been there-done that kind of look, and its hard to find many photos of the tanks when new, seems most of the interesting stuff was filmed out in the field when the action was ever present.
Appreciate you keeping tabs on me ;)
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:03 am

Ad Lav wrote:You love your Russian armour at the moment!

Look forward to the progress of cutting and being told off!


Yes mate, its a phase I think !
Allows a certain level of 'destructive licence' to get the right look.

Loads of grinding & vacuuming going on today. The Taigen chassis are built like the proverbial brick-outhouse so some force with a grinder was required.
Still to trim a little more, but the idea is taking shape now.
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:05 am

Jimster wrote:By the way, that’s some crazy track sag on the prototype photo!



Sure Is Mr Jimster, seems to be the norm on the JS2 machines in most period film.
Im hoping mine can retain its tracks while having that same drastic level of sag.
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:21 am

Loads of grinding & rough filing done today, no cricket to watch :{
The Taigen chassis is VERY durable. Im not sure what it is actually made of, but its not simple folded alloy sheet like most others.
It 'pinned' the grinding disk, and seemed to work harden if allowed to be skimmed rather than ground by the abrasive disk.
I used a thin disk on the dremmel tool to remove the last of the material.
The characteristic nose shape of the front of the JS is now evident.

I can say that the Taigen have made this model in such a way that I can confidently say that it will retain its strength regardless of how much hacking I do to it.
With all of one side guards removed & a quarter of the other, the upper hull has not bowed in any way.
The nose section can be profiled right back to the chassis without opening any gaps where plastic has been removed.
Some minor filling will be required on the rear plate where I got a bit greedy with the guard removal, but it can be easily made to look like the side armour with suitable flame cut marks.
Once all the removing is done I can get on with lots of casting surface and new fuel tank mounts.
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Postby Ad Lav » Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:25 pm

Looking good!!
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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:08 pm

A neat bit of 'rhinoplasty' there, HB, to achieve a good snout lookalike. :thumbup:
Given the warning shots across the bows from the trouble and strife, making a mess is definitely not an option. :eh: Perhaps the excised bits can be collected by the 'tank-fairy'! :)
Given your worthy track record (pun intended), I'm sure this is going to be another well turned out, and totally enviable, homage to WW2 Russian armour. :thumbup:
Following with keen interest, and a first aid kit (ready to despatch), just in case the T and S doesn't appreciate the finer points of the finished item.
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Wed Dec 29, 2021 2:28 am

The mess was not the trigger, it was the fact that I seem to disrespect the price tag of it !!
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:28 pm

First try out of adding a more pronounced cast effect.
A base of Mr Surfacer 500 stippled on, then some Tamiya putty added the same way, with more 500 over that to bind it all together.
Lots more to add, but the effect is starting to come good.
I'm going to hit the turret with a wire buff wheel on a power tool to key it ready for the cast effect to go on........and get rid of the awful white band :/
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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:37 pm

:clap: 'Surfacer is fantastic stuff. Very expertly applied, HB :thumbup: I see that no. ''202' even had the headlight shot out, and no (visible) accessories beyond a shovel on the left. Is yours going to be a faithful reproduction of it, or is 202 just for inspiration?
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Thu Dec 30, 2021 10:44 am

43rdRecceReg wrote::clap: 'Surfacer is fantastic stuff. Very expertly applied, HB :thumbup: I see that no. ''202' even had the headlight shot out, and no (visible) accessories beyond a shovel on the left. Is yours going to be a faithful reproduction of it, or is 202 just for inspiration?


All the accessories are already gone !
but I will keep the headlight as its too nice to ruin!(i grant it mercy!)
202 is the base concept, but I think I will stay close to it at this stage.
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:23 pm

These things are a big canvas for 500 and putty!
Got it all on bar a couple of thin spots which I will do tomorrow.
I took a bit of a punt & added a bit of very thin styrene to one side of the turret & hooked into it with a hot screwdriver.
Now the bog is over it, the section looks close enough to a very large patch of casting that was seeping out of the mold, a lot of late JS's have patches of incredibly rough casting that almost defies logic!
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Postby Ad Lav » Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:33 pm

Mr Surfacer is my go to texture paint as well. Nice job :)
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Postby Jimster » Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:20 am

Awesome texture! Are you gonna get some stencils from Rad?
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