Torro KV 1 864 build ,repaint, weather, elmod new sounds

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Postby Captain Hilts » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:28 pm

Hi Eric.
Thanks for your interest and liking, but you said it all pal , TIME. we waist all our time working and not having enough time to sit down, relax and get creative doing a hobby we like. This has been the best part of not working for the last 6 months , actually getting into finishing a model, and doing the garden :lolno: But i fear work is on the horizon and i may be back next week, so my modelling will return to just a dream. but at least this is finished so will try and get it all on over the weekend. cheers :thumbup:
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Postby Captain Hilts » Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:30 pm

So i have decided to try this modulation that seems to be popular, so i got a Russian 4BO set from vallejo that has 6 different shades, the darker in the most recessed and lighter as parts are most exposed , Sounds simple eh :'(
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Postby Captain Hilts » Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:59 pm

Well i gave it a go but it didnt come out as i expected, or as i had seen in youtube videos of people showing you how its done, :think: Thats how we learn theses days isnt it , the school of youtube :wtf: Started ok, darker then lighter then just to light for my liken, especially the upper body and thats following the vallejo instructions. By the way you can make out the cast effect i made on the turret mantlet here.
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Postby Captain Hilts » Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:36 pm

So I found a great little video on youtube of a guy buiding a KV1 in 1/35 scale using the same vallejo paints, but he doesnt use all the shades ,only the darker primer then the 017 russian 4BO and shading with just a mix of 017 russian green and the lighter 225 light shade mixed, so i copied him . heres the video on youtube
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Postby tankme » Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:35 pm

I bought that same set and I wasn't impressed with it either. To me it came out with too much yellow in the green. I think I ended up using a color from Mig instead.

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Postby Captain Hilts » Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:57 pm

So after copying the the video , I came up with this , Seems a bit patchy , but apparently thats modulation , so im going for it. First time remember 8O :P
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Postby Captain Hilts » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:01 pm

tankme wrote:I bought that same set and I wasn't impressed with it either. To me it came out with too much yellow in the green. I think I ended up using a color from Mig instead.

Yes to many shades at once spoils the broth. that video i posted shows you only need 2 colours from that set , the rest are awful.
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Postby KenCO » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:15 pm

I totally agree with what you have said. painting a tank especially 1/16.... a lot of paint and expense. I started painting 1/16 scale 5 years ago and I am still learning.
Based on what i have seen in your photos - looks too yellow so it must be the paint mix
there are ways to remedy this
1. Start again - you don't need to that.........
2. Alter the paint mix - add white - hard to say exactly what but somewhere between 3 and 8%.........
3. Alternatively you can go the Oil paint approach. You can darken the colours very rapidly by using burnt umber and a green mix - painting with oils on top of the base modulation for example (I would avoid black and white techniques in most cases at this scale - unless you really, really, really are into super detail paint finishes and know how to apply this - requires a lot of practice - at which I have yet to be successful).

I use Tamiya/AK/Vallejo paints, I have a few mig paints - I have no preference - just how its worked for me.
I like painting tanks - super relaxing and yes I get it wrong because suddenly I do not like it!
FYI i repainting a Torro Mid tiger 1 after a rebuild . It's on its 3rd repaint at the moment. Thats due to the development of my knowledge, skills and help.

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Postby Captain Hilts » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:03 pm

Well as i am happy with the paint now I am now thinking i would like something on the tank , a slogan , a number , but most pictures from the war show they are normally plain, but after reading about Zinoviy Kolobanov and his unit of 5 kv1s at the battle of Leningrad knocking out a column of 3 panzer divisions ,a total of 43 German Tanks and a couple of artillery pieces . Kolobanovs tank knocked out 22 before running out of ammo then sending in another KV to finnish them off. He was also promoted and demoted and promoted again after the war and has a good story, So i needed decals or paint masks, thats when i remembered Rad_Schuhart from this very forum , so i got in touch and he kindly made me up some lovely paint masks for Kolobanovs tank, Thanks Rad , i will be in touch soon for more for my Sherman . i would recommend them to anybody to try them, for me there better than decals
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Postby Herr Dr. Professor » Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:43 pm

Rad's markings really make your KV-1 stand out! You have much there of which to be proud.
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Postby Captain Hilts » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:54 pm

Herr Dr. Professor wrote:Rad's markings really make your KV-1 stand out! You have much there of which to be proud.

Hi Doc. Thanks for the remarks, yes the markings are nice , but now for weathering and messing them up a little :P . Will post more on that later. :thumbup:
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Postby Captain Hilts » Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:52 pm

Moving on , I painted the tracks oxide red , then a mixture of dark grey and gun metal, then with randon earth tone soft pastels i scraped them into a small mixture of water and painted them on, let it dry and covered with a flat varnish
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Postby Herr Dr. Professor » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:05 pm

Captain,

What are you (and anybody reading) using for the flat varnish? For a long time, I have used Testor's Dullcote, a US brand, but I am told that the brand is now kaput. I can get large cans of Rust-O-Leum clear flat at "big box" building stores, and I wonder if this stuff would work just as well. Thanks!
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Postby Captain Hilts » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:17 pm

Next a couple of coats of gloss over the tank , and a couple of coats of this mig filter , the whole thing has suddenly got darker . But seems to bring the contrast together better . So following on with the tips on the Wilder KV 1 Finishing technics video series , except im making my own pin washes and splashes from oil paint.
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Postby Captain Hilts » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:18 pm

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Postby Captain Hilts » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:28 pm

Herr Dr. Professor wrote:Captain,

What are you (and anybody reading) using for the flat varnish? For a long time, I have used Testor's Dullcote, a US brand, but I am told that the brand is now kaput. I can get large cans of Rust-O-Leum clear flat at "big box" building stores, and I wonder if this stuff would work just as well. Thanks!

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I've never heard of Rust-O-Leum, I used tamiya flat clear XF86 on the tracks , which I finished on them , then I went to the local model shop here and was recommended mig lucky ultra matt for acrylics which can be sprayed over the paint or you can add to gloss paint also as a flattener. I have only used it flattening some glosses so far and it's ok, after all the weathering on this build I thought it was flat enough and didn't want to chance ruining the contrast between the oils and pigments with a coat of flat. I'm sure there's guys here who can advise me and you on varnish.
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Postby Captain Hilts » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:51 pm

Next up, pin washing and dot washing with oil paints. Sorry the lighting in this room is terrible and with a phone camera its hard to get good pics. But its getting lighter and the modulation seems to be making sense now. and the wheels are back on :D
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Postby Captain Hilts » Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:58 pm

Next working my way around painting scratches with light green.
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Postby Captain Hilts » Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:34 pm

Now to sort out that bug eye headlight with a clear lens and a smaller cool led that shines more yellow like old bulbs , and some braided wire protection made from string and a new antenna made from brush handle and wire.
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Postby Herr Dr. Professor » Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:47 pm

Thank you. I am not surprised that you have "never heard of Rust-O-Leum." I think the brand is not sold outside North America. I have used Tamiya flat clear XF86, an expensive but fine clear-coat. I can get Mig paints here in the U.S. so I will have a look at Lucky Ultra Matt when I finally get back to a brick-and-mortar hobby store. Meanwhile, I am enjoying your KV-1 build.
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