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Torro/Taigen kit Tiger

PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 9:06 pm
by ronnie42
Might be some old pics on forum but going to put everything here. Going to try and get a start on this again, my Panther F has hit a dead end. Brass is lost in transit and my soldering station is having a flaky :thumbdown: Pictures to show whats been done so far , need to find pic for turret numbers or change camo. Just the tools , cables and jack to do . The old switch was playing up after i soldered cable on, so started with new switch.The Atak zimmererit is good where you need to open up the tank up.
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Too many stripes.
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Made a tow bracket with some brass scrap, and mudguards from thin brass sheet.
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Now who can date a tiger by the track cable fittings?
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Work on this stopped after the shovel was added.
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Turret ring moved and added thick styrene to stop flex. servo converted for rotation ,2 gears are easier to position The side skirts are thin brass fitted centre brace, but not needed as its thicker than the PE stuff
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turret base adjusted to fit new centre.
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Fitted bearings in the Mantlet , drilled out the lifting pin and fitted tube for bearings.
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Old switch died as i tried to resolder a connection fitted a better switch.

Re: Torro/Taigen kit Tiger

PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2020 3:45 pm
by ronnie42
Going for a mid /hybrid build as its got zimmermit. Easy one first bar on front for track links . Removed smoke candles and old style cupola.
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Steel tube cant fit the plastic strip
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New style cupola, looks wrong a bit high.

Re: Torro/Taigen kit Tiger

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 8:25 pm
by ronnie42
The rework of the early mess to a mid is rolling along, rear deck and turret roof almost done. Will let the pics do the most of the talking :D
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The cupola marked for cutting
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Cupola cut down and rear deck cleared
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Mid air intake, gas soldering iron is only running on max heat not very neat
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Long pins to fix, cleaned up a little paint will hide the rest
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Fitted air intake,holes line up and other filled.
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Removed old fan position and filled joint at cupola
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Tidied up roof edge at old fan
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Styrene then filler
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New fan position , managed to save old fitting
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Loaders periscope cut
Cant load more than 10 attachments, well the rest can wait. :D Need to find out about the panel in front of the exhausts as it wrong.

Re: Torro/Taigen kit Tiger

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 9:05 pm
by Max-U52
That's definitely an early version, what made you decide on that cupola? I thought they didn't have those until the late version came out with the steel roadwheels? Or possibly the mid had a cupola like that? I'll have to check that.

If you're going with the mid you'll need to lose the feifel air cleaners.

Re: Torro/Taigen kit Tiger

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 9:08 pm
by Max-U52
Yes, my mid version does have that cupola, but not the air cleaners.

Re: Torro/Taigen kit Tiger

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 9:10 pm
by Max-U52
OK. my bad, I now see that by the last photos you have indeed lost the air cleaners. Fine job, but it's not nice to confuse and old man like that!! 8) :haha:

Re: Torro/Taigen kit Tiger

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 11:06 pm
by jarndice
I am interested by your question about the date of the Track Cable because the one shown should be on an "Early" Tunisian Tiger 1 which could be found in Panzer Abteilung 501 (It must be clearly stated that the German Armed Forces did not use the term MID to describe the evolution of the Tiger 1) which make the lack of a pistol port an unlikely sight at that date ,(1942/43)
Very late in the European war some of the Fehrmann Gruppe Tigers and other floating units could be seen with this particular track cable pattern but it was not a standard arrangement indeed by that stage of the war very little in the way of Standard fittings could be found on Tigers in the field,
A very nice build and Paint scheme :thumbup:

Re: Torro/Taigen kit Tiger

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 11:14 pm
by jarndice
A tip for Anyone fitting the Working hinged front and rear Aber/Voyager Fenders,
I always glue a 1mm plasticard backing to them because the Photo-Etch is a bit too flimsy and tends to shake the fittings loose.

Re: Torro/Taigen kit Tiger

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 2:52 pm
by ronnie42
jaundice you are right about the PE mudguards and side skirts. Wish they would make the PE slightly thicker to improve the strength . Was going to use the Voyager m/guards and side skirts but found a thin brass sheet, i just transferred the sizes and made them. Brass is easy to use.
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The voyager pe is used as a template

Re: Torro/Taigen kit Tiger

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 3:11 pm
by ronnie42
Hi max In July 43 Zimmermit and the new cupola were ordered to be fitted to the tank. So my early was way out, or it could have been a rebuild you never know. Like the zimmermit look , have a jagdpanther waiting for a build, it will have the Atak zimmermit.

Re: Torro/Taigen kit Tiger

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 3:25 pm
by ronnie42
Turret done cover for fan with PE and the loaders periscope guard.
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Loaders guard brass
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Fan and loaders periscope guard fitted.

Re: Torro/Taigen kit Tiger

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2020 12:21 pm
by ronnie42
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Mid/late have this on the rear deck a triangular plate, another fix required.
Fixing the rear panel on the engine deck from early to a mid . Another little problem sorted out.
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For a mid or late the filler cover has to go and the retaining latch moves over to the right.
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Removed the detail thats wrong.
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Panel and retaining latch fitted.
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View along engine deck, the rear of the air intake should be enclosed. May fix it with plasticard.

Re: Torro/Taigen kit Tiger

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2020 3:33 pm
by jarndice
DKLM used to sell the filler caps in metal and I spent far too long pin vicing out the plastic/abs blanks and tapping a thread for the replacements,
A side advantage was the opportunity by the judicious rerouting of the plumbing to use the DKLM filler caps as a means to refill the smoker without having to separate the tank body from the hull and with the battery charger socket built into the rear panel of my Tigers via the inertial starter plate I rarely have the need to open my Tigers at all.
I am really enjoying your build, I love the attention to detail :thumbup:

Re: Torro/Taigen kit Tiger

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2020 4:42 pm
by Max-U52
So when you first bought this tank it was an Early? I ask because I bought what they say is a mid, but it doesn't have that triangular plate. One more thing I need to fix one day? You did a great job on yours, hope you won't mind if I flagrantly copy all your hard work. Bwahahaha!

Re: Torro/Taigen kit Tiger

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2020 8:29 pm
by ronnie42
Hi Max This is the tiger kit, an early one. As for the build if you dig down in the builds everything is available . Its the ones who first decided that HL was OK but not quite right. They should take the credit :haha:
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Early Tiger one kit

Re: Torro/Taigen kit Tiger

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2020 8:46 pm
by ronnie42
Another fix the mudguards and the frame holding them.
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Getting the cutout rectangular no notches.
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The frames for the mudguard were deleted, just welded onto rear hull.
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Removed
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Some spare Atak zimmermit and AK putty.
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Job done and a view of beefed up mudguard in brass.

Re: Torro/Taigen kit Tiger

PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2020 9:37 pm
by ronnie42
Fixing the tow hitch or lack of it , easy job bend 2 wires into u shape and a wire across . Pics show the way to do it better.
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Tow hitch set up for solder
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Cut brace wire and file flush ,side view.
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Top view ,some filler and 4 holes thro rear hull to fix.

Re: Torro/Taigen kit Tiger

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 11:16 pm
by ronnie42
Trying to hide the rear hull joint . Another little error from HL rear plate should sit flush with rear deck, some zimmermit to hide the joint.
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Looks bad when the air filters are gone
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With paint it should blend in and hide the joint.

Re: Torro/Taigen kit Tiger

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 11:30 pm
by jarndice
Another way to hide the rear plate join is to remove a 2mm strip along the length of the rear body and add a 2mm strip to the whole length of the top of the rear plate.
Judicious use of "Green Putty" and a little work with "Wet & Dry" will make the addition to the rear plate invisible.

Re: Torro/Taigen kit Tiger

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2020 11:38 pm
by jarndice
Whilst I applaud the handmade tow hitch it does not look anything like the prototype,
An accurate facsimile can be purchased from http://www.rctank.de/