Panther F

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Postby ronnie42 » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:47 pm

This has been lying for too long. Has a few broken plastic parts , first job is remove all the oversized plastic and the horrible recoil / elevation unit.
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the start
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This is junk
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Hangers are way off scale and bust got to go.

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Postby Soeren » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:10 pm

Nice one. I have an F as well. In 1 35th scale to be honest ;).

Even though some bits maybe oversize, at least they are there. I am sure you will make something great of it.
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Postby ronnie42 » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:55 pm

Hi Soeren Thanks for looking, started the teardown . 1st job is the hull mg. Well that was a good start , noticed the mg armoured cover was all wrong. Checked my stash and the Jagdpanther one is same as the KT spare cover when i used the zimmerit kit. , must have been a standard fitting. Only one option cut out the Taigen cover as it will annoy me.
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making this look better
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fitted the Tamiya mg holder into the space left after removing the Taigen mg ball
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Was a pig fitting Tamiya part, problem is the Taigen cover is totally wrong.

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Postby STHV » Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:53 pm

Make sure you fit it with an Stg 44!
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Postby ronnie42 » Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:58 am

Only one option , get rid of the Taigen hull mg holder. Found a spare Tamiya mg cover .
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Periscope cover removed and mg ball off

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Postby ronnie42 » Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:35 pm

Some work on upper hull.
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Tamiya mg cover looks good , periscope cover in metal and thinned out the drivers visor
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Casting nos, running out need more
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Heater unit casting nos and removed moulded on heater covers

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Postby ronnie42 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:07 pm

Made a new recoil and elevation for the F, the one size for all is not for me. Should buy some long servo horns/levers spent ages looking for one. Once i get max elevation and depression i can find out what was real and adjust the Elmod servo settings to get it almost correct.
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Old unit stripped out and junked the Taigen unit.
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made new recoil , some brass, al and a rack gear for the servo
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Micro servo , brass and a nylon rack should slide well for the recoil
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The base for the elevation servo, using an o ring round the slots to hold servo.
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Fitted in need to trim little off the plastic turret base
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No binding of the elevation now
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Extended the servo lever for full range.
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Lower position
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Max elevation

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Postby Jimster » Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:37 pm

Man, that’s some impressive engineering! You certainly have a wide spectrum of skillsets. This hobby seems to offer a lot of opportunities to improvise and alter things to fit our needs.

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Postby Soeren » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:06 pm

That is really nice and looks like a good solution for my G as well. Where did you get the cogwheel and the toothed strip from?
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Postby ronnie42 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:59 pm

Hi Soeren Have a look on ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/34-Kinds-Pla ... SwdRparOd4 The best toothed strips have a flat each side of the teeth and you are able to make a guide for it to sit in and the servo cog does not slip.

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Postby ronnie42 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:55 pm

Recoil and elevation setup. The top of the mantlet is wrong shape if you want +15 and -8 or +20 and -10 degrees for the elevation/ depression and fit the debris guard . Going to reshape the mantlet, its RC so getting the mechanics correct is a must before getting everything else done. Found out recoil was 420mm ? so thats 26.25 scale, had to fit a larger cog for the recoil travel.
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Mantlet will foul the debris guard.
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checking elevation.
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checking depression.
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Debris guard is pushed up . Recoil mark barrel should be out another 1 or 2 mm better have another servo adjust.

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Postby HERMAN BIX » Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:01 pm

Love your work. Top job in the turret set up mate.
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Postby ronnie42 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:48 pm

Thinking the mantlet was designed by the person who done the JP one . Going to make one and move gun pivot position . Pictures are worth a thousand words and save rambling on about the build.
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Will this work.
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No turning back now
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Need more space , cut away some of the front
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Reshaped gun mount to a curved section
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Pivot points further out and bearings in a square housing.
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cutting angles in mantlet
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Top is good can fit debris guard
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Some filler to hide the lines and then Mr Surfacer
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Gun pivot point 10mm forward , bearings in housings easy to fit

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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:54 pm

:thumbup: :thumbup: I'm particularly impressed by the elegance, and simplicity, of the micro-servo recoil solution, Ronnie. o- Your arrangement could also be a good fit for my Comet :thumbup: Cheers!
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Postby ronnie42 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:52 pm

Turret done , fixed mg has no guard over mg hole , no gunners sight filled in and made new gas brackets plastic ones far too thick .
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Front fixed.
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brackets look scale now
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fixed elevation servo gear position.

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Postby ronnie42 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:37 am

Turret, gun ,basket and sub assemblies ready for some paint.
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wrong panther , where is the delete

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Postby ronnie42 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:35 pm

Now the turret is fixed lets unfix the upper hull. Started the brass work , going for hull side damage . The F was a paper panzer , so war drags on and fighting in villages and towns lasts until late 46. Will have turns damage , corners etc. 1st up the jack block holder.
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Urban damage.

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Postby ronnie42 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:36 pm

Some more damage to the front tool rack.
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Thats the RHS side roughed up.

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Postby ronnie42 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:58 pm

This is another fix required ,don't like the shadow. Will move cupola or reshape to turret roof edge . Couple of pics on web show rear and cupola appears to be on the edge of roof.
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Shadow cant be correct

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Postby ronnie42 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:31 pm

moved it cut half the locating lip away.
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refitted
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no shadow sits just on edge of the 3 sides.

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