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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:33 pm

While I'm waiting for bits to take my Tamiya Pz IV project further, I still have the old Asiatam rolling Pz IV hull lurking in my back room. Every time I walk past it, it somehow looks peeved and disgruntled. Well, that's how I felt when I had to saw almost a centimetre off its alloy rear end, and rework all the fittings that arrived with it. I have a Heng Long airsoft upper for it, and it was my intention to use that somewhere in the not-so-distant future. :yawn:
But the lustre left that project long ago until, that is, I saw this thread on RCU today: :)
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-tank ... build.html

It's a detailed thread, and well worth perusing if you have nothing better to do. :thumbup:
For me, though, it offered a departure from my normal turreted tank direction. So....I went and ordered the kit from Asiatam. Yes..I must be a glutton for punishment, considering my past experience with Mr Tams' Pz IV product, and considering the pasting I gave the firm too.
In any event, on the face of it..it doesn't look as though I'll need to rejig the whole thing, and it's 90% plastic anyway...should any mods be needed. It looks from the search feature here that the StuG IV had been largely overlooked, as all references seem to point to the StuG 111 being the favourite model, and so a build might inspire others. :think: Maybe not. Christmas is looming large on the horizon, and bank balances are probably tipping into the red already :D
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Postby c.rainford73 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:36 pm

Very interesting build. I expect yours will look fantastic
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Postby PainlessWolf » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:58 pm

Good morning, 43rdR&R,
The Profiline Resin kits can be a lot of work but the results are well worth it. I would not have a 1/16 early RC StuG Ausf III B with out one of them.
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Postby Estnische » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:56 pm

Can't wait to see what you do Roy. I've been ivestiagting Stugs, and I can't believe how much fruit is out there in the aftermarket bits for the III.

Let me know if anyone does a 1/16 Fu radio?
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Postby silversurfer1947 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:15 pm

There's a Fu2 and FU5 set available on Shapeways. If you look at my Nashorn thread, Louis posted a link. I shall have some photos up tomorrow.
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Postby B_Man » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:23 pm

Good luck with the build. AsiaTam has some nice products but in my experience their quality control leaves a lot to be desired. Either way it will be an interesting build to follow and might spur me on to starting the jagdpanzer IV conversion kit I have tucked away in my workshop.
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Postby lmcq11 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:05 am

Hi,

Building this conversion kit is challenging for sure. Every part was a puzzle to put on, potential for improvements unlimited. My kind of modelling project. Have fun.

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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:18 am

PainlessWolf wrote:Good morning, 43rdR&R,
The Profiline Resin kits can be a lot of work but the results are well worth it. I would not have a 1/16 early RC StuG Ausf III B with out one of them.
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A worthy kit done justice to with a worthy build, Painless; but then I'd expect to see nothing less in your Colorado tank domain. :thumbup: :D Currently, I've not had any dealings with the Pz 111 as my current drug is the IV..but in time
I may get a different prescription :D
The Pz 111 is well served with aftermarket kits, but they're a tad scarce for the IV. I saw Chris Ludwig's Jagdpanzer IV kit, and mulled that over. In the end, I didn't fancy major alterations to the front of the Asiatam hull, especially after the surgery at the posterior end :problem: Then there's the challenge of having to raise the front sprockets. That's a potential world of pain.. :lolno: I will check Profiline out, though.
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Postby Estnische » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:21 am

Thanks Richard
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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:23 am

Estnische wrote:Can't wait to see what you do Roy. I've been ivestiagting Stugs, and I can't believe how much fruit is out there in the aftermarket bits for the III.

Let me know if anyone does a 1/16 Fu radio?


It won't be until well into the New Year, Estniche. I have the Christmas break to deal with first (Family visits etc., and woeful excess..); then the Tamiya IV; but at least I'll have most of the bits I need to hand.
Yes, The Panzer 111 is ripe for alteration, given available aftermarket parts; the Pz IV less so. :problem:
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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:30 am

Thanks, Richard for the useful tip, as ever...
and to B Man for the well- warranted pessimism :lolno: I agree that while Asiatam products tick many boxes in terms of conception, enterprise, and look; the quality control is frustratingly lacking. Hmm....
I'd better watch what I write here, as Mr Tam might well read this.... and I'm depending on him to supply the kit I've just paid for.... :shifty:
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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:43 am

lmcq11 wrote:Hi,

Building this conversion kit is challenging for sure. Every part was a puzzle to put on, potential for improvements unlimited. My kind of modelling project. Have fun.

Regards, Louis

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Thanks for the timely reminder of what can be done with a StuG IV conversion, Louis.. :sick: :D I don't think that I could ever hope to match your standard of finish; but I shall have a go at producing a model that looks a little plausible in the right setting. (...The Bin... :haha: ). The technique you use, and have described in the past, would demand more patience than I could even muster. Then there's the general artistry. I have some Tamiya weathering products I' ll experiment with, and add them to my (limited) repertoire of finishing tricks, and hope that will suffice to make a model worthy of closer inspection. It's the build part that I enjoy most, however, not the painting.
In any event, it's going to be a while before i can begin. I just wanted to invite some thoughts on the kit, and on this particular version of the Panzer IV..as it doesn't seem to be discussed here very often. :)
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Postby PainlessWolf » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:15 am

43rdR&R,
Evenin' Doc! My only intent was to get you a little hungry for what could be done with a resin kit and some patience. Louis did it better with his shot of his JagdPz IV. Have fun and I will be sure to be following along! ;o)
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Postby Estnische » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:59 am

Good-o Roy.

If one were to plan ahead to a time when one's other projects were finished, one might build a Stug with opening hatches, including the loaders position, where a radio might be visible. But for $38 USD, I might make a roughie from plastic scraps.

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Postby Estnische » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:50 am

Hey Roy,

In your opening post you did say you had ordered the bits, so this may be a moot point...

Here is a Targa option for PzIV chassis: the Dicker Max (as opposed to Biggus Dickus) and its large 105mm er, cannon. Very do-able with plate armour.

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Postby Ad Lav » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:03 am

There's a company sells that conversion - franks modellbau.
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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:21 pm

Estnische wrote:Hey Roy,

In your opening post you did say you had ordered the bits, so this may be a moot point...

Here is a Targa option for PzIV chassis: the Dicker Max (as opposed to Biggus Dickus) and its large 105mm er, cannon. Very do-able with plate armour.

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Er..thanks for the tip, Estniche, and it looks like a big one :D
Also,thanks to you Adam, and Michael for your take on the topic. In the event, the kit arrived just before I set off on my ritual Xmas jaunt to catch up with friends, offspring, and the latest 'flu virus (missed so far :D ). I'm still on my travels, in a haze of contentment and excess.Luckily, I've not encountered any Elephants yet..pink, or perhaps even tartan. That's a testament to my hard won self control.
I looked at the available options for mounting something on my Asiatam all-aggro alloy hull, and plumped for the StuG, as I don't have any StuG's in my burgeoning collection. Generally, I prefer tanks with turrets, as they spin around like the head of the hapless, possessed Linda Blair in 'The Exorcist'. But I like mine to spit 6 mm BBs, and not green slime :haha:
Maybe you haven't seen the pics I posted of the kit when it arrived. That's because I tacked them onto my 'Contemplating a Pz IV build' thread, as a sort of 'stop press'.
The upper hull arrived as a 'swayback', and it's still undergoing chiropractic traction in the Highlands as I write this. I'll probably insert and bond 2mm alloy strips to cure the 'swayback' look.
here's what the kit looks like:
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Asiatam StuG IV conversion kit. Swayback version.
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Asiatam StuG IV detail. Not overly impressive..
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It's going to be a lot of work not to make a 'Biggus Diccus' ( Thanks Monty!) a great Coccus Uppus :haha:
Buuut..it will have to wait until the Tamiya Pz IV spins its tracks for the first time...
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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:44 pm

Well, while the arrival of the final bits for the Tamiya Pz IV is not quite as imminent as I would like, I thought I would get back to the Swayback bette noir, that is the Asiatam StuG IV. In this instance it is practically ALL Asiatam. This means
none of it fits together very well- and yes, I really shouldn't be such a glutton for punishment. :-< Still, that's the nature of the typical modeller, I expect. :lolno:
Having tried hot water, and the oven to correct the ben in the upper hull..I decided that it would be more prudent to apply a little orthopaedic traction to the obstinately Swayback StuG. I didn't want to leave it in the oven and forget it, as I managed to to with a Chicken Kiev the other day.. :shh: :{
But first, I fitted the rear armour plate and engine side vents:
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Asiatam StuG IV fitting the rear armour plate

Yes, the woolly detail isn't that inspiring...and yes, I have seen the kit at Frank's Modellbau; but somehow I plumped for this... :| Duh.. I'd almost forgotten that..Life is full of regrets. Must try to keep them to a minimum. :thumbup:
On the PLUS side (there is one...), the Asiatam StuG hull is an exact fit on the Asiatam lower hull. BUT that's only because I'd already sawn almost a Centimetre off the back of the alloy hull! If you recall, I did this a couple of years ago on another thread, before my patience finally ran out with Asiatam's lack of any precision.
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Asiatam StuG IV- Swayback Ausfuhrung

The length is just right, but without a clamp on the front, the Tank looks like it's had a severe shunt in a road accident....
At least all the baking and boiling had reduced the 'sway' a little. But not enough.
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