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The new Taigen Metal Panzer IV (Pic heavy!!!)

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Postby Arnie_DK » Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:18 pm

Hey all, just got the new Panzer iv from Dominique at Rctank.de and for once, I didnt just rip the box open but took my time to take lots of pictures :P
Overall it seems like a great little runner. For once, the tracks have the same "adjustment" unlike the older versions, where one side was always tighter than the other with no means of adjusting it without doing mods.
The paint job is not as horrible as the pictures I have seen looked like, but the wash they finished it with, is very heavy! So heavy that the opening hatches are very hard to open and some paint flakes off when you pri them open. Also, I was scared I might brake the plastic side hatches in the process.
Along with the tank I got some goodies from Dominique, neatly packed in the same box as the tank.
I am a bit concerned though, that I wont be able to install the drive shaft supports, as it seems like the covers they usually go under, is now a molded part of the tank itself. I will find out, when I start taking it apart.
If you have any questions about this new tank, feel free to ask :)
And as a side note...I might be addicted to the Panzer IV!!!

My new Panzer IV arrived today and for once, I didnt just rip the box open but took my time to take lots of pictures :P
Overall it seems like a great little runner. For once, the tracks have the same "adjustment" unlike the older versions, where one side was always tighter than the other with no means of adjusting it without doing mods.
The paint job is not as horrible as the pictures I have seen looked like, but the wash they finished it with, is very heavy! So heavy that the opening hatches are very hard to open and some paint flakes off when you pri them open. Also, I was scared I might brake the plastic side hatches in the process.
Along with the tank I got some goodies from Dominique, neatly packed in the same box as the tank.
I am a bit concerned though, that I wont be able to install the drive shaft supports, as it seems like the covers they usually go under, is now a molded part of the tank itself. I will find out, when I start taking it apart.
If you have any questions about this new tank, feel free to ask :)
And as a side note...I might be addicted to the Panzer IV!!!

My new Panzer IV arrived today and for once, I didnt just rip the box open but took my time to take lots of pictures :P
Overall it seems like a great little runner. For once, the tracks have the same "adjustment" unlike the older versions, where one side was always tighter than the other with no means of adjusting it without doing mods.
The paint job is not as horrible as the pictures I have seen looked like, but the wash they finished it with, is very heavy! So heavy that the opening hatches are very hard to open and some paint flakes off when you pri them open. Also, I was scared I might brake the plastic side hatches in the process.
Along with the tank I got some goodies from Dominique, neatly packed in the same box as the tank.
I am a bit concerned though, that I wont be able to install the drive shaft supports, as it seems like the covers they usually go under, is now a molded part of the tank itself. I will find out, when I start taking it apart.
If you have any questions about this new tank, feel free to ask :)
And as a side note...I might be addicted to the Panzer IV!!!

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Postby c.rainford73 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:30 pm

I really like it! Paint looks much better in person as you said. A bit of weathering and track painting and you've quite a beast on your hands Can you post a video of her starting and running with new sounds?

Have fun

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Postby silversurfer1947 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:39 pm

Looks very good. I love the winter tracks. A bit like the wheel hub knives that Messala had fitted to his chariot on the film of Ben hur.
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Postby Arnie_DK » Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:50 pm

Video... Should be able to :)

My intention is to paint it. I newer really was a fan of winter camo (maybe because most snow in Denmark just turns grey and disappears in an hour, but leaves the cold behind :P )
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Postby jarndice » Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:51 pm

I couldn't help smiling when I saw the pictures,
It has detail you almost never get on any PZ4 such as a slot to fit a reflector on the rear left fender :thumbup: and the cupola aiming pointer although the cupola needs turning so that the vision slit is facing the pointer, and it is nice to see a pre-installed Aerial Deflector on the Turret yet the most obvious fault is still included, they hav'nt dropped the rear roller, :lolno:
I am wary of Hulls and drive axle covers, The "Asiatam" one that comes with the Metal hull needs a 25mm Router to open out the cover for a drive shaft support bearing to fit unless you fancy wearing out 3 or4 "Dremel" Abrasive stones, :crazy: and if as you say this one is fixed in place it makes matters worse although I suppose it is possible the bearing is pre fitted? :shifty:
Thanks for the Pictures Arnie nice detail.
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Postby Arnie_DK » Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:12 pm

Yeah, it still have some fixes to do. The return roller will be interesting to do, as I suspect, it wont be as easy, as on the plastic hull.

As for the asiatam hull, I had no problem fitting the supports. The hull I got had predrilled holes for the screws, that matched exactly the supports with bearings in them and the cover fitted cleanly over it.

And as for video. I just tried shooting one, but my camera is horendous with video. So I'm waiting for my helmet cam to charge, so I can shoot a proper video :)
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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Fri Jun 02, 2017 6:15 pm

Its great to see this new Panzer IV comes with more details and some new stuff, but its dissapointing that they refuse to fix easy and noticeable things, even when we asked for it in forums when it was being designed.

The return roller location, (should be lower) the sprochet (should be rised), the slope in the rear hull, and the horrible suspension should have been corrected.

Anyway it still looks cool, but please, paint it! I think Gary said it looked like somebody droped a can of coke over it, and I agree with him. Once propperly painted it would look way better than that.

Some questions here for you: How does the hull attach system works? It looks kinda cool and hope it can be bought for installing it in my asiatam panzer IV. Also, how are the new taigen sounds and controls?
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Postby Arnie_DK » Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:37 pm

The hull attaches/detaches, exatcly like their T-34. I even think you can install the new metal lower directly to the old upper hull(I saw Dominique have them in stock). But will test that to be sure.

I saw on RCU that Imex-Erik said the last return roller would be corrected, but that the first shipments wouldnt have this fix. I just couldnt wait for it to (maybe) being corrected :)

Compared to the old Taigen sounds, the new ones are amazing. Compared to IBU, TK22 or the other more expensive boards... Well I guess they are okay. (will post video as soon as my camera is charged)

And YES! I will paint it :D
Thats actually the reason why I wanted the Winter version. Easier to paint over :D
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Postby leopardgreece » Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:54 pm

Very very nice....!!!!From where u bought it ?

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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:10 pm

leopardgreece wrote:Very very nice....!!!!From where u bought it ?

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Lol, mate, did you read the post?
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Postby leopardgreece » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:11 pm

No , why ? :-)

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Postby leopardgreece » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:13 pm

rctank.de ? How much ?

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Postby silversurfer1947 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:20 pm

leopardgreece wrote:rctank.de ? How much ?

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If you look on the web site, you can find all the information you need.
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Postby leopardgreece » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:21 pm

Thank u sir,have a nive night.

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Postby Arnie_DK » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:58 pm

And we have a problem...

The tank cant receive IR hits. It shoots other tanks just fine though. Have tried swapping upper huls, to see if it was just a wire problem, but sadly no...
Have contacted Dominique about it.

But meh... Was hoping to see if they had changed anything in the receiving hits department(sound and spasms)
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:57 pm

It's been said that the suspension is the same horrible one as the older taigen PZ 4, I have the older one, and the suspension just doesn't work like a suspension, it's far too stiff, the bogies just pivot, is that what was meant, or is there something else wrong with it?

Also I notice the protective tubing they put over the wires to the 360 ring hasn't changed, it's far too stiff for very thin wires, if you watch your turret going around keep an eye where that tube constantly bends, that means those flimsy thin wires are constantly bent in the same spot, I shouldn't think it'll take long for them to work harden and get brittle and snap.

And when I bought mine about a year or so ago, it was advertised as having track tensioners, I'm still looking for them lol.

But after all that said, I love it, and yours looks even better, especially with those must have tracks.

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Postby Arnie_DK » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:48 pm

The suspension is EXACTLY the same!

I found that with a mod (found on these boards) and some proper lubrication, they actually work okay. And the tank sits higher and looks more right. I did the mod for my other 3 Pz-IV's (well, one is a Stug, but same lower)

The tubing is the same as with all their 360 models, but I havent found that to be a problem yet(my tiger and T-34 a about 2 years old now). My biggest problem with these tiny wires, is when I need to disconnect the plug from the board, they can easily snap!

On another note, one of the drive sprockets came loose, and I thought I wanted to check if there were room for the shaft supports I got. In short. There is not! Taigen made sure that it wouldn't be an easy fix, to make your drive shaft more sturdy... :thumbdown:
It seems, that the entire lower hull, is one complete cast, with only a few small details in plastic.
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Postby c.rainford73 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:59 pm

So kind of like the Asiatam metal hull instead of the traditional Torro or Taigen metal lined detailed plastic lower. I still like it a lot
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Postby Arnie_DK » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:59 pm

And as for a sound test. Here you go guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNaMJXl ... e=youtu.be

Had hoped to do this outside in the sunlight, but my camera took a bit of time to charge(havent been using it for a while)
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Postby Arnie_DK » Sat Jun 03, 2017 12:08 am

c.rainford73 wrote:So kind of like the Asiatam metal hull instead of the traditional Torro or Taigen metal lined detailed plastic lower. I still like it a lot


Yes and no. Have the Asiatam hull as well. Will make a comparison once I get this faulty board thing setteled. Dont want to take the tank apart before I'm positive everything is working as it should ;) (That waranty thing)
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