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Re: RAMSCHAUFELPANZER PANTHER

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 1:08 pm
by PershingLover
Hey Herman, I found something for you- a Stug with a plow! You feel up to some more brass work? :haha:

Re: RAMSCHAUFELPANZER PANTHER

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:46 pm
by HERMAN BIX
PershingLover wrote:Hey Herman, I found something for you- a Stug with a plow! You feel up to some more brass work? :haha:
Ha! The StuG bit yes, the IV base,no. I’m
Not a fan of the PzIV model.
There’s 3 pics that if found of the Panther dozer, as is the case when in need of more info, there is never enough!
In one of them, when I blow the picture up on a good screen, zimmerit can be made out on the mantlet.
On another angle though, it can’t be seen.
As for the mg and gunners sight penetrations, I’m going to assume they were plugged with wood or rag to reduce dust ingress.
The gun aperture Would also have been filled or covered .
Another question, why the turret at all ?
If this was a tank in for repair, and no gun was available, why not just leave the turret off all together and cover the ring with a canvas tarp ?
Plus, these early panthers had fragile final drives, especially with inferior crew operation, so I doubt this dozer would have lasted long ?

Perhaps I will just stop asking myself why & just finish it !!!!

Re: RAMSCHAUFELPANZER PANTHER

Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:58 pm
by Tiger6
HERMAN BIX wrote: Another question, why the turret at all ?
If this was a tank in for repair, and no gun was available, why not just leave the turret off all together and cover the ring with a canvas tarp ?
Plus, these early panthers had fragile final drives, especially with inferior crew operation, so I doubt this dozer would have lasted long ?

Perhaps I will just stop asking myself why & just finish it !!!!
I was pondering this yesterday, best I could come up with is that the extra weight would aid with traction, and the dummy weights used for testing looked to be simple rings rather than a full enclosure? - you wouldn't want rubble pouring thru an open turret ring in the even of falling debris...
Again if we run with the 'factory test / prototype vehicle' idea, you'd be able to argue that the final drives would have had the later parts installed as part of any test program, and the guy at the controls could well have been the works test driver ;)

Re: RAMSCHAUFELPANZER PANTHER

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:31 pm
by PershingLover
Tiger6 wrote:
HERMAN BIX wrote: Another question, why the turret at all ?
If this was a tank in for repair, and no gun was available, why not just leave the turret off all together and cover the ring with a canvas tarp ?
Plus, these early panthers had fragile final drives, especially with inferior crew operation, so I doubt this dozer would have lasted long ?

Perhaps I will just stop asking myself why & just finish it !!!!
I was pondering this yesterday, best I could come up with is that the extra weight would aid with traction, and the dummy weights used for testing looked to be simple rings rather than a full enclosure? - you wouldn't want rubble pouring thru an open turret ring in the even of falling debris...
Again if we run with the 'factory test / prototype vehicle' idea, you'd be able to argue that the final drives would have had the later parts installed as part of any test program, and the guy at the controls could well have been the works test driver ;)


Why not do something like the Bergepanther? A wooden deck, like on the model below? And I was also wondering about those final drives. Even the dozer blade was light, what happens when you have to push tons of rubble? It's a mystery. :haha:

Re: RAMSCHAUFELPANZER PANTHER

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:31 pm
by PershingLover
Sorry, here's the image.

Re: RAMSCHAUFELPANZER PANTHER

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:14 am
by HERMAN BIX
Ive been away out west for a week, back now.
Burnt landscape (from drought not fire) and dead Roo's are everywhere, flies................. :problem: like you cant imagine.

Have some pics of the ram-Panther not uploaded that I did prior to leaving.
The turret cam pattern was part Mr Selkirks 'A' requiem, and part advice from one of my tank mates that can paint.
I'm ok with the exposed primer patches that I masked with Panzer Putty, but they are very stark & bright at the moment.
A good wash & chip should calm them down. I hope.
Wheels are on, hub caps secured & punched in to place with a suitable 1/4" drive socket that fits over the hub centre.
Its coming good, but I wont be happy until its finished.

Re: RAMSCHAUFELPANZER PANTHER

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:59 pm
by Wildboar44
Do you hold your breath the first time you depress the air brush trigger on that first stroke of colour ? I certainly do :haha: . Nice job :clap:

Re: RAMSCHAUFELPANZER PANTHER

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:17 pm
by c.rainford73
Mr Bix that paintjob is a work of art :clap:

Re: RAMSCHAUFELPANZER PANTHER

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:21 pm
by Ad Lav
Smart work :D

Re: RAMSCHAUFELPANZER PANTHER

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:36 pm
by HERMAN BIX
Wildboar44 wrote:Do you hold your breath the first time you depress the air brush trigger on that first stroke of colour ? I certainly do :haha: . Nice job :clap:
Yip, I most certainly do !
Trying to get the finger to carry out the picture in the minds eye is always a nervous time !!