5TH GUARDS TANK ARMY T34/85, Cherkassy, Zhurzintsy–Hill 239

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Postby HERMAN BIX » Mon May 27, 2019 11:59 am

Had the good fortune to be given an almost new 2.4G H/L T34/85 as an exchange for ongoing repairs, modifications & painting of a guys other tanks.
Now I have no specific need for a T34, but as its come in via the "gratuity supply line" I've decided to do a bit with it & see how it ends up.
First I cut all the mudguards off (ya just cant give me anything good), took it apart & removed the engine deck rear hatch. Then the lowering of the suspension sit using short bits of 5mm tube(toob to you left-hand-drivers) superglued into the travel slots to lower the suspension arms & give the tank a better poise.
Plan is to only use spare bits or creative alternatives to buying anything. No metal upgrades at all, a keep it simple stupid and run it caper.
I see it ending up as a whitewashed roughy from the winter before the start of Operation Bagration era.
Heavy on the mucky lower hull, real rough on the whitewash, unwashed & unloved.
The engine deck cover is a painful yet necessary mini-project to get rid of the all plastic mesh that isnt mesh, and replace it with actual mesh inside actual open sections of deck cover. :/
On my Bedspring version, I use this access to lube the gear boxes. This one will be the same, although I wont go as far as making the louvers that should be under the cover.
Pictures when I can..............
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Postby Will01Capri » Mon May 27, 2019 12:38 pm

Pictures ;)
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:07 am

Ok, camera now back.
I did decide to add the louvers under the engine cover.
Mainly so the gear boxes can be lubricated.
Even though this is going to be a simple & cheap/free build, I need to predict the future.
I went through my boxes and boxes of 'snot' parts & found some metal drive sprockets & idlers(no idea where or when they were procured :/ ), so I will put those to use.
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Postby PainlessWolf » Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:25 am

Herman!
It is turning out very well. Phil Upton would like that upgrade on his suspension tweak muchly. He may still be here on the forum and can chime in some appreciation. Super neat job on the louvers and grills.
Following along,
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:15 am

Thanks Mr Painless, the suspension lowering is just a mandatory for these things out of the box.
The engine deck cover mesh is also a must-do. The filled in plastic just does not cut it.
Getting all the infill out is not a quick process, but its well worth the effort.
I will not hinge the cover though, thats a bit unnecessary for this cheap & cheerful version.
Tonight I've added putty on both sides and stippled a stiff brush over it to give a bit of texture, but more importantly to blend the surface together after cutting the mudguard runners off.
The real things were stitch welded to the sides, not bolted like German tanks of a similar size.
Pictures show they were only stitched on the top edge, not underneath as well, so if levered upwards enough, or enough times, they do break off.
Once the putty is dry I will hit it with Mr Surfacer 500 to further add to the texture of the armour.
Downside of removing all the mudguard runners is now I have to simulate weld along the entire hull where the sides meet the sponsons ! :/
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:06 pm

Got some welds on.
Used my melt-method to get the rough look of welded joints in the relevant spots.
Its very liberating to know that rough-enough is good-enough !
Just like the real ones. ;)
I can feel myself sinking into the abyss that is "do it properly,load it with metal parts,get the details right"
But I'm trying to resist !!
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Postby PainlessWolf » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:42 pm

Herman!
Good morning. Both Heaven and Hel are in the details. All of us 'detail' Tankers are there already and saving you a seat at the table. ;o) The Sov Armor is really coming along nicely, Doc.
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Postby Will01Capri » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:04 pm

Awesome details
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:04 am

Thanks lads. Been delving into this unit to get a feel for how they looked at various times and they were a very well used bunch!
Turret markings were optional it seems, or, the rate of losses was so high that replacement machines were not even bothered to be marked.
I think the white wash will be brush painted this time, still over hairspray, but added in a scale rough way,
I might try a slogan on the barrel too, as was done on occasion.
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:57 am

I think this machine one will be one of the elements of the 5th Guards in this epic.................Zhurzintsy–Hill 239

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of ... ssy_Pocket
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Postby PainlessWolf » Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:01 pm

Good Morning, Herman,
That's a really good choice of Historical time to set your excellent tank down into. Following along
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:53 am

Thanks Mr Wolf
That battle sure does take some reading up on.
A German Strategic defeat, but a Soviet tactical "missed opportunity" all in one.

Ive added the older style looped bar turret lifting points rather than the later wedge type lifting points. This tank made during this period could have had either, so going with the less trodden path, used paper clips to get the look, with weld added accordingly.
I looked through a few links I found during my old 'Bedspring' build and they are still active & very useful.

Used bits of a sour cream container rim to fill in the cupola slots & bring them down to a better look. Still to add weld material around them all. I did this on my bedspring & had to look back to check what I did it was that long ago !!
Of note, the really cheap WSN T34/85's have vision slit infills on a sprue :/
In fact if I ever get a pair of them together again at the same time, I will graft the WSN turret onto the H/L barrel hardware to make a much more accurate turret for the '43-early 44 build period.

I also took some time to hand form brass strip into straps for the extra fuel tanks & smoke canisters which will be left off.
Once they are added they will be suitably deformed. At the end of the rest of the project.

This was going to be a quicky, but as do the best laid plans of mice & men- its morphed into a full blown project. :problem:
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:22 pm

Looks a bit of a basket case at the moment, but the lure of primer was too great !
Wont be long before its sealed up & ready for paint & reassembly.
Once the welds are done on the cupola vision slots, the turret will be in primer too .
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:27 am

Looking a bit more betterer now.
Added a dabbing of Tamiya putty over the turret surfaces to increase texture & highlight the casting mold seam.
Buttoned up the hull after fitting a set of steel gearboxes that were destined to repair my Zu-Fuss Panther which is far too big a job to comprehend :/
Added some hand formed brass straps for the auxiliary fuel tanks on both flanks which I prefer to be empty of the tanks.
Once fully set, they will be distressed to suit the overall look.
I theorise that these vessels suffered a lot of damage, as well as needing to be manually pumped out into the vehicles fuel tanks for use. They were not directly connected to the vehicle fuel system. So if they were damaged, they would have been removed by the crew until new ones could be supplied.
Tomorrow will get the last shot of primer over the new additions & if it dry, the top coat will go on.
Im going to avoid using the 4BO set & have made up a brew of XF-13 J.A.GREEN, XF-51 KHAKI DRAB, XF-62 FIELD GREY, XF-62 OLIVE DRAB in an even 25% proportion thinned to 50% just to try it.

I also had a massive contract to repair an icon in the figures department. A key member of the team suffered a bit of battle damage & lost the head from the body.
Used a brass picture hanging pin drilled into both the head & body with high impact gel super glue to hopefully recover the thing to normal duties.
Restored to full duty ;)
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ELSA BEATS A BEHEADING !!
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Postby PainlessWolf » Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:46 pm

Good morning,
Damned nice work, Herman, on both the T-34\85 and the Team Member. Following along.
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:09 am

Been a while.....................got some more done.
Finally got the thing into primer, and then a first top coat of my concoction of various Tamiya paints to make my own version of the venerable 4BO.
In my opinion, 4BO is as much enigmatic as Dunkelgelb :think:
Is it green ?
Is it a Khaki Green ?
What is it ?

What it is is a variation of a green-ish colour, depending on the factory, the supplies available, solvents used, ambient temp at time of use................so many things.
I really just used this tank as a chance to have a try at an alternate to the MIG 4BO set & see how it looks.
Ok I reckon, and its going to have white wash on it, so no big deal to be perfect.
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Postby BarryC » Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:15 pm

Looking great Herman!

The finished tank will make your efforts worth while. :thumbup:

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Postby Will01Capri » Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:22 pm

:) :thumbup:
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Postby Aussie » Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:27 am

Looks good mate.

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Postby jimbo_wa » Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:38 am

Nice work Herman!


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