Torro Panther repaint

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Postby Chelios » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:51 am

I bought a Torro Panther along with a Tiger I for a pretty good price a while ago. Seller claimed that the Panther was metal but alas it wasn't (the Tiger did have metal tracks, hull and drive wheels so no complaints there).

Torro advertises it as being "airbrushed but it looks like it's been painted with a spraycan (drips and really thick paints) so I decided to repaint it. The camo looks way too dark at the moment, you can barely tell the green from the brown. Also bought metal tracks, drive wheels and hull to upgrade it. Electronics will remain stock for now.

I'm honestly not sure what I'm doing as it's been a while since I did any kind of modelling (did some very amateurish 1/35 scale 20-ish years ago) but we'll see how it goes. At least I have the internet now to look up tips and tricks :)

I'm just waiting on some photo-etched grills for the rear deck and then I'll probably start disassembling it and putting on the primer coat. This isn't going to be a 100% realistic build. If a colour is off, it's off. Not a stickler for details at the moment, I'm learning as I go :)

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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:17 pm

Good luck Chelios, I know what you mean about not being sure what to do. I too did some amateurish 35th scale modelling about 45 years ago, and I find this 16th scale quite daunting, although it should be easier to scratch build parts in this scale, the painting definitely worries me :{

So, you're not alone ;)
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Postby Chelios » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:23 pm

Yeah, I started doing the move from the old shell to the new one today and I already find that daunting. Although it's probably more because the quality of everything is kind of... low. Hot glue everywhere. I attached the 3 main components in the new hull with velcro in case I need to remove or replace anything. Much handier than the globs of hot glue that held it together before.

It's also very noticeable how different the front part of the hull is. The metal one is much longer in the front.

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Postby Chelios » Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:28 am

Wow, exactly a year later, but I've continued building the Panther :)
I added a texture on the hull (bought a new one, old hull didn't align with the new chassis) with AK Interactive Metalcast. Not sure how realistic it is but it's better than plain plastic I think. And painted basecoat with an oxide red primer. Still working on the turret. I may add a nightsight on the turret since I bought the later steel wheels (and make it a late war Panther).

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Postby Wildboar44 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:07 pm

Chelios wrote: Not a stickler for details at the moment


I think we have all said that once.... And then it takes hold... more power than Frodo's ring. "me wants it, we needs it" ... it will happen, you just wait 8)

Good luck with your build,look forward to the updates.
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Postby Eastern Front » Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:34 am

I don't want to be "That guy" but I will!

I know the German vehicles look kinda plain being smooth but it is very accurate. The German armor is rolled steel, that is why its smooth, now the American tanks and the Russian tanks had cast turrets which gave them the texture..Wasn't sure if you were aware of that. It is your build, do it how ever you like and have fun with it!

I always like a good Panther build!

cheers!
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Postby Chelios » Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:42 pm

Yeah, I know the real steel is smooth but I somehow thought the plain plastic was too smooth to be realistic. We'll see, I tried not to go too overboard with it :)

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Postby Soeren » Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:04 pm

Just sand the surfaces, that will knock the effect back and will look much better.
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Postby Chelios » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:45 pm

Well, this is what I've got so far. The primer isn't holding on super hard on the metal surfaces. Hope the rest of the paint will stick. Tried doing some weld lines for the first time ever. Compound putty is tricky stuff -_-. I also forgot to fill the gaps on the side mounted cylinder, will redo that part.

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Postby Jimster » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:25 am

I think it’s coming along splendidly. Well done.

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Postby Wildboar44 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:35 am

Hey there Chelios,

Please do not be too critical on yourself buddy. Your first RC tank is like your first date, you dont really know what to say or do but you will work out what is best for things to develope between you. A good Forum will help you along the way to making your first steps with encouragement and help, lets hope we all give a little lift when you need it. All Rc Tanks do not need to be perfect, as long as they are perfect for you, keep the posts coming, its great to see you coming along. :thumbup:
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Postby jarndice » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:52 am

Before painting any metal part of your Tank you MUST use a Metal Primer or the Paint just will not take,
The sequence is this----First wipe the Tank over with Acrylic Thinners using a lint free cloth,
Then paint the metal surfaces with metal (Etching )Primer
Depending on the state of the tanks bodywork paint the tank with either "Mr Primer Surfacer 1000" or if it is full of gaps "Mr Primer Surfacer 500",Carefully Cut back the finish with "FINE" Emery Paper.
follow that with a coat of red oxide primer/undercoat then comes the topcoat followed by the weathering.
AND DONT RUSH !!!
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Postby Chelios » Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:20 pm

I guess I was kind of confused by the label on the paint. I used Tamiya primer spraypaint and it said “for use on plastic and metal”. I did clean the metal parts before painting and I assumed a primer wouldn’t need another primer. Oh well. Thanks for the advice :)

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Postby ronnie42 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:31 pm

I am trying some MIG ammo primer. Reviews say its good for PE and metal, 60 ml bottle and can be sprayed tho airbrush so should be good for smaller metal . Using the airbrush means i can prime the small bits after they are fixed in position with little overspray.

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Postby ronnie42 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:39 pm

I used some red oxide undercoat in a can and some paint flaked off the metal other areas were ok. The can might have needed more of a shake to mix the contents or sat the can in hot water for a few mins. :(

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Postby capt midnight » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:59 am

Have you tried using self etching primer on the metal parts? I spray it on the metal parts before the first primer coat. I haven't noticed it causing any problems with the plastic, and it makes it a lot harder to chip the paint off of the metal.

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