Lert builds Oddball's Sherman

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Postby frankie » Sun May 20, 2018 10:01 am

Yep, search dolls house stuff...great for the watering can tin bath etc..
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Postby Lert » Sun May 20, 2018 1:58 pm

Very nice build of Oddball's man of Sher, Frankie!

You know, the more I work on this build and the more I think about the tank, the more I think it was dressed up for the movie, to 'look cool', rather than have any base in reality or history.

I mean, I can accept the 'trophies', like two German helmets, a German jerrycan and the road signs. I can accept the random crap like a lantern, a watering can, two US helmets, a frying pan and even a wicker basket. But why does it have 9 backpacks, for a crew of 5? Ok, so, maybe the crew has more personal gear than fits in 5 backpacks. But in addition to the 9 backpacks there are 5 duffel bags and 3 boxes. That's a lot of storage space for a 5-man Sherman crew.

Then there is the pipe. Oddball says it's to put on the 76mm barrel so maybe the Germans think it's a 90mm. But -

1) It doesn't make narrative sense. It's introduced, then never used like that in the movie. It never leaves its stowage space. They establish the pipe, then never use it. That doesn't work with one of the oldest and most basic narrative tropes there is, Checkov's Gun.
2) It doesn't make plot sense. Why would you want to make your tank stand out and look more dangerous than it is? British Firefly crews went out of their way to camouflage their additional barrel length, since they understood that standing out with a bigger gun just made you a target.
3) It doesn't make logistical sense. The pipe is way too short to fit over the entire barrel.

So, what's the purpose of the pipe?

Then there is the speaker. It fits with the character of Oddball, the laid back proto-hippie, but there's no way any tank crew would be able to get away with that in reality, right?
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Postby Lert » Sun May 20, 2018 4:21 pm

Son of a gun-ner wrote:It's not real ya know, it's a fictional film lol :/


Oh I know. Was just making an observation. I don't mind building fake tanks as long as I know / acknowledge that that's what they are.

Son of a gun-ner wrote:As for the back packs and storage, they could have picked up the extra four along the way, and used them for souvenirs etc, even food.


Entirely possible.
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Postby Kaczor » Mon May 21, 2018 8:13 am

Great build. In July I will start mine (based on Taigen/Torro Sherman). In the movie was at least three different Shermans so model will be accurate only for specific scene (i.e. during attack on train station there was standard 0.5 cal mounted and later there is aircraft type Browning. Stowage is changing from scene to scene. Speaker have dent or not etc.

Also it's fantasy war drama-comedy with Vietnam era vibe so only what counts it's having fun and positive waves :D
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Postby Aussie » Mon May 21, 2018 11:39 am

This is starting to sound like the Fury threads.
Keep smashing out the pic's Lert , it looks great.

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Postby Lert » Mon May 21, 2018 3:16 pm

Some times it's the subtle things that make the difference ...

I mixed a few drops of a very light sand color with the clearcoat and sprayed it on my man of Sher. It lightened the tank and softened the weathering, and I'm so happy with the result I'm going to post pictures.

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Can you see the difference between this and the previous update pictures?
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Postby Soeren » Mon May 21, 2018 9:52 pm

The tank looks great. And your application of a clear coat with paint worked great.
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Postby Raminator » Tue May 29, 2018 9:06 am

Lert wrote:I'm so happy with the result I'm going to post pictures.

And so you should be. You've tied the stowage and weathering together really nicely, the tank looks like it just rolled out of a movie still. Impressive work, Lert! What else remains to be done, now?
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Postby Lert » Tue May 29, 2018 1:07 pm

Raminator wrote:What else remains to be done, now?


The rest of the stowage and some pigments for dust / mud. Need to source some more backpacks and helmets, then figure out how I'm going to do the skillet, duffel bags,speaker, wicker basket and lantern. Probably scratch build most of that, if not all.

However, because of my RL situation that's going to take a while.
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Postby essexbill » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:13 am

Hello Lert.

I have just ordered a HL Sherman, and being a fan of Kelly's Hero's was thinking of doing an Oddball Sherman, I am glad I have followed your thread yours looks very good sadly my paint skills are poor so dont think mine effort will be any match for yours.

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Postby BarryC » Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:14 pm

As with Oddball's Sherman you are recreating the uniqueness that gave us all a good chuckle when we watched the movie. Now if you can get it to fire some "paint" filled rounds! :O

Great work Left. :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Postby BarryC » Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:16 pm

As with Oddball's Sherman you are recreating the uniqueness that gave us all a good chuckle when we watched the movie. Now if you can get it to fire some "paint" filled rounds! :O

Great work Left! :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Postby ronnie42 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:42 pm

Like your milk churns, something different is nice.

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Postby shermanww11 » Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:43 pm

Hi, i found your build of Oddballs Sherman very interesting and would very much like to do a similar type of adaption to a Heng Long Sherman myself. (may not turn out as nice as yours has).
Being a lover of film and wishing to create a small part of it, i was wondering are the mantels you bought
still available from the USA.
Ive loved seeing what you have done with yours and feel inspired to attempt a similar project.
Would greatly appreciate any advice and tips.
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Postby Kaczor » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:19 am

In my Oddball's Sherman turret is from Taigen Sherman. Thread protector was made by my father on lathe.
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Postby sassgrunt » Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:51 pm

That thread protector on the barrel is a work of art! Tell your father that if he ever gets bored in retirement, he may have a future in manufacturing high quality aftermarket parts!

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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:44 pm

sassgrunt wrote:That thread protector on the barrel is a work of art! Tell your father that if he ever gets bored in retirement, he may have a future in manufacturing high quality aftermarket parts!


I'll second that, Mike. That's a beautifully controlled bit of lathe-turning there. :thumbup:
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Postby Kaczor » Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:56 am

Thanks. My father is RC modeller from over 40 years ;) Few years ago he had stroke and he is making almost everything one handed.
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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:53 pm

Kaczor wrote:Thanks. My father is RC modeller from over 40 years ;) Few years ago he had stroke and he is making almost everything one handed.


All the more remarkable, in that case. :) :clap:
Mind you, Beethoven still managed to compose music, when he had gone almost stone-deaf.
Where there's a will- there's a way, as the old saying goes. :thumbup:
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