His & Hers Late (now mid) & Early Tiger Builds

This section is to 'show and tell' about any customizing or re-vamping you have done (or are doing) to a Heng Long tank.

Postby walter » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:50 am

walter wrote:
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walter wrote:Here are some pictures showing conversion from early to a late Tiger 1
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walter wrote:Here are some pictures showing conversion from early to a late Tiger 1
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Postby Will01Capri » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:05 pm

Nice pictures, they sure are very helpful pictures.
Not quite what i had in mind, but along the same sort of lines. I guess the extra bulk will actually help with the balance and handling of the Tiger anyway, but some nice machining there.
Good job
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Postby Will01Capri » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:26 pm

So my Tiger is on hold as i have been told by the wife to wait for Christmas for new parts. So i am on hold. Hopefully lots of goodies so i can continue the build over the holidays when it is too cold to play in the garage
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Postby Will01Capri » Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:43 pm

So Santa obviously thought I had been good as he got me a few parts for my tanks.
I got some Tamiya sprues for the M26 Pershing HL, but also got some armoured transmission covers and metal tow shackles for the Mid Tiger build.
Still got a lot more to get but it.means I can crack on with a little more over the Holidays.
Got some money to spend on other bits aswell to progress the Tiger
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Postby c.rainford73 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 3:16 pm

Will01Capri wrote:So Santa obviously thought I had been good as he got me a few parts for my tanks.
I got some Tamiya sprues for the M26 Pershing HL, but also got some armoured transmission covers and metal tow shackles for the Mid Tiger build.
Still got a lot more to get but it.means I can crack on with a little more over the Holidays.
Got some money to spend on other bits aswell to progress the Tiger
Will that's great news Have fun!
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Postby Will01Capri » Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:49 pm

So I spent a little time on my.mid tiger. Decided to crack on with getting the hatches to open and shut. That now works. Pictures to follow.
Next job to make a strengthening bulkhead for upper rear section of the hull and get ready for primer!

Need to get smoke machine in back to check space availability.

Going to mount fans in under grills.as per originals but for cooling electrics
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Postby Will01Capri » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:34 pm

Cut out main engine hatch
ImageRear centre engine hatch cut out on the Tiger. by Will Pattinson, on Flickr

Top hull now very weak!
ImageRear centre engine hatch cut out on the Tiger. by Will Pattinson, on Flickr

Trial fit with pins, boy were they hard to drill out those holes!!!!!
ImageCracking on with the operable hatches on the HL Tiger. by Will Pattinson, on Flickr

ImageCracking on with the operable hatches on the HL Tiger. by Will Pattinson, on Flickr

ImageCracking on with the operable hatches on the HL Tiger. by Will Pattinson, on Flickr

I have also glued on some nice Voyager brass grill covers. The UHU worked well for that, but i have some shaping and then few small dots to glue back down with cyano.

Next steps will mean i now need to make a frame that attaches under the top of the hull to strengthen, but also to give a closing point for the hatches. The rear part of the body is also going to be permanently fixed into the upper hull with some alu bracing and small subframe. So the rear and back will lift off as one. It is the only way i can make these hatches work and give the tank strength.

Under the hatches i am going to put laptop fans under there to mimick the actual fans used on real tanks, that should help cool the electrics.
I think i need to get a 3D printed engine looking thing to sit under the main hatch, but that lifts off nicely so i can gain access into the inner working sof the tank for smoke oil etc.
Quite happy with it so far and remember the cost of this tank is super low, we are doing on a budget as much as possible.
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Postby Soeren » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:40 am

That really nice work and a great update. :thumbup:
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Postby Will01Capri » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:22 pm

So decided to fit the metal Henglong gearbox which was meant for my Mid Tiger, but wanted to get my wife's Early Tiger up and running again.
Quick and easy, just had to snap off an relocate the mounting lugs for the gearbox and make it work.

Now i am just waiting to cut some reinforcements to stiffen the shell.

Also making up my own bearing supports to help reinforce the driveline.

For now the rear idlers are ok, but when they do go i will fix those aswell.

Motors are also of a more low profile design, so will give more space to fit more in this tank when we decide to do so :)
ImageRipping out the crap plastic and replacing with metal gearbox. :) by Will Pattinson, on Flickr
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Postby Will01Capri » Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:08 am

So i have taken the metal gearbox meant for my Mid Tiger and fitted it in my wifes early Tiger to get it running again so she is happy.
But i had to relocate alot of the fixing points so i had something to screw down into for the Front RH box.
It does move a little however with flex in the chassis so it needs stiffening up a bit.

I have also made my own DIY axle support bearings, so pictures to follow. I also bought parts to make up several parts.

I have got alot of oiless bushings on their way and lets see how it goes.
Think the hardest bit is whether or not it is going to be possible to fit the transmission covers back on!
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:21 am

C'mon Mr Capri, cant leave this to the spiders !! :D
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Postby Will01Capri » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:01 pm

HERMAN BIX wrote:C'mon Mr Capri, cant leave this to the spiders !! :D


Haha, i won't just been busy with the 3D printer recently haha.
You are correct though, i should focus some attention on these Tigers & My KT. The tanks must be feeling neglected for sure.
Now i have the printer though i can start making the internals to hold the hatches and fans underneath so it looks cool when the hatches are lifted!
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Postby Will01Capri » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:21 am

So as some of you may have seen, I have finished reverse engineering Rakeys Tiger engine.
So I will be printing one off to fit the desired space at somepoint soon.
Now I need to start thinking about electronics and which ones I fitting in my tiger. Maybe Clark board. I don't want to go mad with it, but I do want sound and smoke.
Will look great when you can open the hatches to see the maybach :)
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:12 am

So, have you worked out how to print just the top half of the engine?

That way it can take up less room needed for smoker etc ;)

Also one with three filters?
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Postby Will01Capri » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:31 am

Son of a gun-ner wrote:So, have you worked out how to print just the top half of the engine?

That way it can take up less room needed for smoker etc ;)

Also one with three filters?



Can easily Slice the engine yeah.
Also working in 3 filter version during week. But rocker covers and thermostat take off look alot different so going look more pictures
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:44 am

A couple of pictures I found :thumbup:

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Postby Will01Capri » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:59 am

Son of a gun-ner wrote:A couple of pictures I found :thumbup:

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Nice one Mick, that is good to see. I am going to have to print off a couple more Maybach engines. I forgot about this and will get back on it.

I also have bought yet another Tiger 1.......
So we are planning a Early, Mid & Late production build.
I was toying with idea of metal tracks bla bla on all of them, but actually i want to thrash them around a bit. So the Mid Tiger will get metal tracks and hopefully i can stick with nylon on the others. We will see what the wallet can handle eh.
I am working on a engine compartment 3D printed section to sit into the HL Tiger Chassis that the engine can sit in :)
I promise i will try and upload some new build pictures soon
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:58 am

Hi Will, I've since realised/found out that the HL 210 P30 is the version they used in the first Panthers.
It's the HL 210 P45 that was used in the first tigers.

But, what's the difference? Is it just the carb?
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