Nashorn build from a Panzer IV lower hull

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AlwynTurner
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Nashorn build from a Panzer IV lower hull

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Well here's a new start. I have been thinking about a Hummel/Nashorn build for a while and looking for a suitable donor, and finally got one coming.
Here's the object of my desire
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and the blueprints for said item
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I finally managed to get the right info on the tank after a false start and printed off the scale blueprints. Just waiting with bated breath for my donor.
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Re: Nashorn build from a Panzer IV lower hull

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Alwyn, are you scratch building this one or getting a kit (Bandai Hummel or Juckenburg Hummel/Nashorn) ? I have a Juckenburg kit and it is amazing. I managed to get his 88mm/L71 to recoil as well in the open cab.

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Re: Nashorn build from a Panzer IV lower hull

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Hi Michael, I am planning on scratch building as I find the kits a bit expensive and I'm running on a very tight budget, plus I find the scratchbuilding is fun! :crazy: How much was your Juckenburg kit if you don't mind me asking?
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Re: Nashorn build from a Panzer IV lower hull

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It's arrived!! My ebay purchase was delivered and quickly unpacked and here it is
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Plugged in a battery, started it up, and everything works - WOW.
I'm not sure I can bring myself to take it apart and chop it up, it's such a nice-looking and performing tank! The previous owner had done some painting and weathering - especially on the tracks, and it looks pretty good.
The chassis lines up pretty well apart from the chassis on the Nashorn is lengthened over the rear sprocket, and the Nashorn drive sprocket appears to be higher and slightly further forward than the Panzer IV, so some work to do on remodelling the chassis.
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Anyway a major leap forward and I can start planning what to start on!
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Re: Nashorn build from a Panzer IV lower hull

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Yeah thats a nice as-is for sure.
Ahh, to bad, your new one will be waaayyyyy better when its done :thumbup:
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Re: Nashorn build from a Panzer IV lower hull

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Opened up the Panzer and nice surprise - all metal gearboxes with bearings throughout! What a win. Anyway now to start pleading for advice.

Has anyone moved gearboxes around on a Panzer IV and is there a thread somewhere I can look at please? I need to move the drive sprockets forward about 5mm and up by about the same amount. I seem to remember seeing a thread where someone had done this but can't find it despite much searching. ??? ??? ???

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Re: Nashorn build from a Panzer IV lower hull

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Mr Philipat and Mr Woz(I will find the links) but not by that amount.
You are restricted in raising by the hull roof, but this can be made easier by different gearboxes.
As for moving forward, I dont believe this has been done let alone by 5mm that I've seen.
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HL PZIV MALTA,MATORRO JAGDTIGER,HL F05 TIGER,TAMIYA KT,HL PANTHERDOZER,HL EARLY PANTHER G,TAIGEN/RAMINATOR T34/76,
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Re: Nashorn build from a Panzer IV lower hull

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viewtopic.php?f=22&t=13969&start=80

Read on from here about the gearbox settings
HL JAGDPANTHER,HL TIGER 1,HL PzIII MUNITIONSCHLEPPER, HL KT OCTOPUS,HL PANTHER ZU-FUSS,HL STuG III,HL T34/85 BEDSPRING,
HL PZIV MALTA,MATORRO JAGDTIGER,HL F05 TIGER,TAMIYA KT,HL PANTHERDOZER,HL EARLY PANTHER G,TAIGEN/RAMINATOR T34/76,
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Re: Nashorn build from a Panzer IV lower hull

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Hi Herman yes you are quite right, there isn't enough clearance for the forward move, but I reckon I could tilt the gearbox and raise the front of the gearbox by 5mm and raise the roof over the gearbox by a couple of mm. It won't provide quite the correct position but it should be close enough that it dosn't look obviously wrong. So just a couple of 5mm spacers under the front of the gearboxes should do it. The roof over the front shouldn't be a problem being a scratch build as it won't be obviously incorrect as the slope of the front roof won't change.

Many thanks for the advice and the pointers.

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Re: Nashorn build from a Panzer IV lower hull

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MichaelC wrote:Alwyn, are you scratch building this one or getting a kit (Bandai Hummel or Juckenburg Hummel/Nashorn) ? I have a Juckenburg kit and it is amazing. I managed to get his 88mm/L71 to recoil as well in the open cab.

MichaelC.
Alwyn, just remembered that Juck is retiring now so it will be no more unless someone else picks up his molds etc....... I think I paid 200 euro ? The big thing is the interior and the details on the 88mm. Here is my original thread:

viewtopic.php?f=33&t=11907&hilit=Nashorn

BY the way, if you look at the picture you posted of the Nashorn, the drive sprocket is fairly close to the 1 st road wheels as well. I think your blue print drawing is a little optimistic as to what it should look like perhaps....... :-)

Good luck and will be watching this closely.
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