Converting HL Panther "G" to a Late "A"

This section is to 'show and tell' about any customizing or re-vamping you have done (or are doing) to a Heng Long tank.

Postby Aljones34 » Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:44 am

Can’t wait to see this masterpiece in paint.

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Postby Soeren » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:49 am

It is definitely worthwhile to read this thread from the start. Lots of good solutions and attempts to use on own builds.
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Postby dgsselkirk » Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:49 pm

philipat wrote:Awesome work!

Any tutorials for the Atak mantlet? I've been looking at doing an early G and was thinking about using that mantlet to do it.


I honestly can't remember what I had to do to convert it to HL. I think I had to mount the HL posts inside it using 2 part epoxy and had to do some sanding and fitting of course but I think it was simpler than I thought it was going to be....
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Postby Soeren » Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:59 pm

You can cut the posts out of the mantlet and fit for instance 6mm tubes instead. These will go into the henglong mounting points inside the turret. That was why I asked here. Seems we did it the same way.
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Postby philipat » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:55 pm

Cool! Thanks!

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Postby dgsselkirk » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:29 am

That triggered my memory, yes, what I did was cut the 2 posts out of the HL mantlet and remounted them inside the new one and then filled it with 2 part epoxy to hold in place. So back to the present. I had not looked at my wheels in a couple of years and forgot I did get rid of that annoying ridge on the rims. They look far more accurate without them.
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WE NOW HAVE PRIMER!!! On little secret for new guys using Tamiya primer. The fine white is about the best overall primer I have used in 45 years of modeling. BUT, do NOT be in a hurry to add paint after using it. The lacquer needs at least a couple of days to set up. I leave mine for a full week if it is humid like it is now! you will find you use less paint to cover and it sticks better...
Next up base dark yellow or Dunkelgelb
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Postby Estnische » Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:20 am

Great to see this project back up and running. Another mighty 'A' nearly finished.
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Postby Raminator » Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:12 am

An epic build Dean, It'll be great to see it all coloured-in! What did you have planned in terms of camouflage and markings?
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Postby Soeren » Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:34 am

Thanks for the advice on the primer. I tend to get lazy and use cans for priming as well instead of firing up the airbrush. Also the coats tend to be more even this way. :thumbup: Yes, tell us about your camo ???

Your wheel mod is a fantastic idea and the first time I see this.
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Postby philipat » Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:50 pm

dgsselkirk wrote:That triggered my memory, yes, what I did was cut the 2 posts out of the HL mantlet and remounted them inside the new one and then filled it with 2 part epoxy to hold in place.


Sweet! thanks!

So, that's not rattle-can primer? In the pictures it looked like the Tamiya light grey primer that comes in small cans. How well does that stuff stick to the brass and other metal attachments?

I didn't have much luck with the Tamiya grey (rattle can) primer on my PzIII. So, I used an automotive primer on my PzIV, which seems to adhere to the brass and pot metal better.

Wheels look awesome!

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Postby dgsselkirk » Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:58 pm

It is actually the white small can Tamiya primer. Just looks greyish because it is covering dark surface. It doesn't need to be a thick coat. Metal it is pretty good. The trick is to get all the oils off everything. I use rubbing alcohol and an old paint brush. Again it really does need time to set up before paint. I have used auto primer and a couple of others too but find they are to heavy for any detail work I do.

Not sure on camo yet but thinking Das Reich Normandy to combat my Firefly's...
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Postby Jnewboy » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:00 am

I love this build, I truly love this tank. For a long time it has been my all-time favorite tank. The panther d looked good but there's just something about the a model how it doesn't drop off in the back the straight line makes the tracks look better on it somehow, I also hated the D mantlet with that oversized chin that ruined the nice smooth and round gun mantle. When I think of a panther I think of this one. I always wanted one no side skirts just simple Panther without any extras. For me it is the symbol of armor. I have been thinking about doing this build for myself and adding it to my collection but I always hold back thinking that someone like Trumpeter will release one someday and then I will kick myself for spending the many many many many hours it would require to make it right.
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Postby square4 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:58 am

Just gone through this thread, some great scratch work being done, looking very good so far.
Well done. :clap: :clap:

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Postby dgsselkirk » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:46 am

Thanks for the kind words guys,

so gave it the overall Tamiya dark yellow and then added some further details. I like to do this so that you get the nice base coat on but you don't want it to go too thick on some of the detail work so I add that after the base coat and then do a light coat on the details. Added debris screens with scratch built frames, open sights, etc.. Also installed magnetic antenna. This works great when you want to do service on the inside of the tank. Just pop the antenna off . Also it means that anything striking the antenna won't break it it will just bend away but the magnet will pull it back in position. did some test fitting of some of the tools.Also started on periscopes. What I did for this was use the PE ones, fill the lens area with 2 part epoxy, then cut them in 1/2 to fit under the guards. Also planning on mounting spare wheels to the turret so drilled out the bolt mounts and using a little threaded rod made the mounts.
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Postby dgsselkirk » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:56 am

Also added that stupid little "Bosch" PE to the headlight. For the convoy light I decided to make it look like the original was damaged and torn off and that the crew did a field mount of the one below the storage box. This light will be lit up on the model of course. And, couldn't forget to mount my padlock! :D
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Postby dgsselkirk » Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:03 am

And last for tonight...

so much of this tank has been trial and error. I try something and don't like it and take another approach. So it is with the brass fenders. I really couldn't get them to hang properly and I really wasn't happy with the openings for them to hang. Thought they were too big so I went back to styrene and simply glued them on the brass hull mounts I had created. I like the look of these much, much better!

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Postby Raminator » Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:25 am

Great work on the fine details Dean, and a very clever idea to paint them after the main structure of the tank.

I'm in two minds about the skirts though, it seems a shame to cover up all the hard work you did on the sponsons!
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:44 pm

Oh Lord yes I agree about the skirts covering the sponsons...............too nice- a job to hide.
I want to do an A or D, but as its going to be a bulldozer, no such fantastic detail as this !
Just magnificent Mr Selkirk :clap: :clap:
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Postby dgsselkirk » Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:57 pm

Yea, maybe I'll remove a couple of the plates on one side....

But it looks so sleek with them all on! LOL!
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Postby Aljones34 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:14 pm

Great work once again, this really is a great looking “A” the best looking Panther. The turret mounted road wheels really set off the turret rear quarters.

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