A Tale of Two Tigers ~ Jnewboy Customs

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Postby Jnewboy » Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:29 am

A few weeks back I got an order for a Porsche King Tiger, one of my personal favorites, and one in one of my favorite schemes, the classic "Anneliese" in winter white wash over camo. As I started unboxing the Henglong Porsche Kingtiger and I remembered that I have another Porsche King Tiger, it is a Trumpeter static full interior version that is desperately in need of a new paint job! So I have decided to do them together, exactly the same! Obviously the challenge is to get the Henglong up to the standard of the Trumpeter kit.

The first step was to apply ATAK zimmerit kits to each tank, the Henglong version went on fine as you can see in the pictures until I got to the gun Mantel, the gun Mantel on the Henglong Porsche is this sloped sleek looking thing that is totally wrong and ATAK made their kit to accommodate this mistake. Im not a "rivet counter" but its just to far off for my taste and so my first thought was to grind it down, and then sculpt it into the general right shape and then do the zimmerit coat by hand over that section. As you can see I got it ground down but then had a better idea! I was worried that my hand zimmerit would be noticeable against the fine work of the ATAK kit so I came up with a solution, the trumpeter ATAK kit has the correct gun mantel as a solid replacement part, why not copy it and use it on both tanks! So as you can see in the pictures I made a mold of that part and now have one for each tank. Much more to come! This will be a fun build! 8)

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Postby Jimster » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:24 am

Very clever! If this is any indication of how much effort you’ll be putting into this project the results should be spectacular. Definitely going to follow this thread.
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Postby Jnewboy » Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:57 pm

Jimster wrote:Very clever! If this is any indication of how much effort you’ll be putting into this project the results should be spectacular. Definitely going to follow this thread.


Thanks Jim! Your Tiger is looking great!! 8) 8)
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Postby PershingLover » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:10 pm

I agree, the Porsche turret looks nice. Never mind the giant shot trap, of course. Anxiously awaiting another amazing build!
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Postby Jnewboy » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:05 pm

PershingLover wrote:I agree, the Porsche turret looks nice. Never mind the giant shot trap, of course. Anxiously awaiting another amazing build!


Yes, obviously Ferdinand Porsche assumed that the allies would be so overtaken by the beautiful curves that they would be unable to fire! :haha: Its the same with the Maus, the front of that turret is a dysfunctional thing of beauty, Porsche's curves are still legendary and are on full display in their cars, I've noticed even Mercedes Benz has started copying Porsche's rear end for their latest models like the 2020 CLS. 8)
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Postby Jnewboy » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:22 am

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As you can see the mating ritual between kits worked out great! I simply sliced off the tip of the Henglong mantlet and glued it to the ATAK mantlet and then plugged the barrel in, no glue as this way it can be removed easily for shipping. Next is the ATAK kit for the Trumpeter Kit then the details on the Henglong will begin. :thumbup:
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Postby LordPanzer » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:58 pm

I loved what you did a few months back on the "what if" Panther build. Cant wait to see what you work up on this one !

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Postby Jnewboy » Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:58 am

LordPanzer wrote:I loved what you did a few months back on the "what if" Panther build. Cant wait to see what you work up on this one !

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Thanks! This one is going to be based on a real tank, so its actually going to be harder to do it correctly. There have been a lot of builds of this tank and frankly most have been lacking to say the least or a list of what not to do.

Look at this one:
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At first glance it looks ok but then you remember that they whitewashed over the track links and tools. The whitewash should be over camo, and its far to neat on the turret, remember that they did not whitewash with a spray gun, they used brushes, brooms, rags, what ever they could find so getting it in all those ridges in the Zimmerit is wrong. Then we get to the actual name Anneliese, the color & font are wrong and the decal is even crooked. Speaking of the decals the color and font for the numbers are wrong and the cross is even wrong as it had a solid black cross. These mistakes are sloppy and could have been easily avoided with a small amount of research and a little effort.

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Where the mistakes are difficult to avoid is using the correct camo undercoat colors and weathering the whitewash correctly. Mine will be based on these photos but at a future time when the ground has thawed and the thick mud is present while white wash is wearing away.

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This one is MUCH better and though this modeler still made the white wash to thick for this time of season (early spring due to mud) its light years from the other.

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This one is interesting, it suffers from the opposite problem, the camo is fading without any trace of mud and they did not whitewash the tools.They also went to far with the Zimmerit coat under where the fenders were. I like the figures and how the camo on the tank plays with their camo outfits.

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Postby Jnewboy » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:25 am

Today I spent 3 hours deconstructing the Trumpeter King Tiger. I know RC enthusiasts may not appreciate it but I love the detail of the Trumpeter models interior portions. Tearing it down was harder than I thought it would be but now its ready for the ATAK Zimmerit coat.

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Much more to come 8)
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Postby Estnische » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:46 pm

That’s great Jon. I’ve always wondered how much of these Trumpeter interiors could be retained in a RC tank. Thinking about a T34.
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Postby Jnewboy » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:25 pm

Estnische wrote:That’s great Jon. I’ve always wondered how much of these Trumpeter interiors could be retained in a RC tank. Thinking about a T34.


It would be interesting to try, very difficult though to have both. Take a look at these pics of my King Tiger, not a lot of room in there for a gear box & electronics.

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Postby Jnewboy » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:56 am

Some more progress on the ATAK kit, mixing the Trumpeter kit with the Atak kit has some small issues but I moved through them fairly well. I was about to put on the MG34 mount on the front glacis plate when I started looking at the Henglong which I wasn't totally happy with so I decided to also make a copy of the ball mount and will use it on both models. I removed the inferior on from the henglong in preparation.


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Postby Jnewboy » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:51 pm

Coming together, more shots of the interior and gun as I finish the Zimmerit.

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Postby Jnewboy » Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:36 am

Dont you hate it when the "real world" disrupts panzer production! :haha:

Back to work!
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Lots of minor detail work going back and forth, the differences between the two are getting harder to see!

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Next is Dunkelgelb, camo then whitewash!
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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:35 am

An engaging project (not mainstream), and a feast for the eyes at the same time. :thumbup:
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