Tamiya Centurion

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Postby Soeren » Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:12 am

Good morning wonderful people. I was curious about this tank kit, so I gave it a go. The kit looks great. Detail oob is ok. I wonder though, if I should buy Anregerinnen kit from afv club to identify additional details. But this made wouldn’t be necessary until the upper hull and turret will be approached.

So the beginning of the suspension it is. I didn’t actually know, that the hull had angled sides. That was unexpected and I first thought something was wrong :{
This is also my first tank model not having torsion bar suspension and there are quite some parts that go into the individual suspension units. I looks like it is working fine after doing one of these. Painting would be tricky though, to reach all the angles. I will see whether I will have to take it apart again or just go at it with black as far as it reaches into the units for a shadow effect.
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:37 am

Glad your back in the game Mr S, and certainly a hell of a tank to make your comeback with too ;)
I actually saw one of these today, completed & running ready for paint.
Was hugely impressed.
I expected the quality to be typically high Tamiya, but the gearbox hub reduction units, new electronics and that suspension were very special.

Only criticism was the mantlet cover which for the RC version looked awful.
The owner is looking to use a shotgun cleaning patch material with a cross cut in the front for the gun penetration that then can be retained by dental braces rubber band(s) to hold the thing in place around the 20pdr barrel.

Ran like a Rolls, sounded great and was a very imposing sized model in 16th scale. Effortless turns made on carpet.

Be great to see what you do with it :thumbup:
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Postby Ad Lav » Sat Apr 02, 2022 12:54 pm

Watching along before I tackle mine :)
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Postby OldWolf » Sat Apr 02, 2022 2:23 pm

I, too, will be eagerly following your build as I wait for the one I have on order.

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Postby jhamm » Sat Apr 02, 2022 4:49 pm

Today i start the build of my Tamiya Centurion too.
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Postby Soeren » Sat Apr 02, 2022 7:43 pm

The build is straightforward. I am almost done with the running gear. Build the gearboxes today and started on the final drives. Some oddities, the return rollers get no hub caps for some reason. Well, I guess it is because they wanna cover those with the side skirts. But what if I don’t want to mount those.
Some nice feature is the echt electronics bay, a tray of metal bracing the back section of the tank also covering the gearboxes. Together with the front lower plate and the back plate which are both lined with a metal brace is feels like a well made lower hull. I like that.
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Postby Soeren » Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:40 am

HERMAN BIX wrote:Glad your back in the game Mr S, and certainly a hell of a tank to make your comeback with too ;)
I actually saw one of these today, completed & running ready for paint.
Was hugely impressed.
I expected the quality to be typically high Tamiya, but the gearbox hub reduction units, new electronics and that suspension were very special.

Only criticism was the mantlet cover which for the RC version looked awful.
The owner is looking to use a shotgun cleaning patch material with a cross cut in the front for the gun penetration that then can be retained by dental braces rubber band(s) to hold the thing in place around the 20pdr barrel.

Ran like a Rolls, sounded great and was a very imposing sized model in 16th scale. Effortless turns made on carpet.

Be great to see what you do with it :thumbup:


Hey there Herman,
Build the gearboxes and one side final drive, I wonder what the problem is with those. Maintenance can be a bit tricky maybe. But it has a full ball bearing and metal support for the sprocket axles. Features that we need to buy as aftermarket parts on other tanks.

Wish you guys as much fun buildings this kit as I had this weekend.

This is where she stands right now.
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Postby jhamm » Sun Apr 03, 2022 5:34 pm

I am one step ahead.
I have already pre-painted:

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Postby Soeren » Tue Apr 05, 2022 5:50 pm

Hey there JHamm, that is great. I hope you enjoy the build as much as I do. I have to take it slowly atm, only a few hours on the weekends maybe.
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Postby jhamm » Tue Apr 05, 2022 7:35 pm

yes,
it's a easy build.
Everything fits perfectly.
Spend some time for additional details:

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Postby Soeren » Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:31 pm

Nice, the lamps are for the head lights? :thumbup:

Btw because we can see the cables in the manual what thickness of steel rope is used for the real life Centurion?
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Postby Ad Lav » Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:53 pm

jhamm wrote:yes,
it's a easy build.
Everything fits perfectly.
Spend some time for additional details:

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What light kit did you use?

Looks good!
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Postby jhamm » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:25 am

Ad Lav wrote:
What light kit did you use?

Looks good!


No light kit..
Drill a hole throug the stand and lighthousing and wire a SMD-LED, thats all.

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Postby jhamm » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:34 am

Soeren wrote:Nice, the lamps are for the head lights? :thumbup:

Btw because we can see the cables in the manual what thickness of steel rope is used for the real life Centurion?


look at this

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the cable is around Ø 1" = 25mm

25mm/16 = 1,5mm
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Postby Soeren » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:30 am

Thank you jhamm for both Tipps. 1.5mm brass cable is easily available so an easy swap for the nylon string.
I am almost done with the build, but I didn’t add all the detail yet to help with painting and because I have to figure out where more detail could los be added with a reasonable effort.

My opinion so far: the build is easy and a lot of features have improved over the KV-1 model for example.the magnetizing of the turret and engine deck allow for easy access wirhout tweakin the setup. Although there is a funny separation line on the turret now. The lower hull and the suspension feel rock solid. The hull has metal bracing front back and center. The final drives with ball bearing and steel shafts are nice as well. Gun handling is full servo now, good if you wanna swap the electronics. But funny enough, you need a servo connector cable for the electronics. And of course I seem to have lost one.
The cons for me is the use of ABS on a lot of the upper hull parts. Gluing those was not as straight forward. This also didn’t allow the application of sprue glue to fill gaps, etc.
The gun barrel is a bit undersized for the mantlet to unfortunately. Some thin brass sleeve might fix this.

Have to order another receiver before I can try how she runs.
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Postby jhamm » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:58 pm

The towingcable:

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Some details:

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Royal Ordonance L7 :

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Electronic in the turret, RX and StabiWII with new faster and powerfull Servos:

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Postby jhamm » Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:02 am

Two Tamiya Centurions yesterday at Harzgerode.
The one in the background is build out of the box:

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And here together with the successor

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Postby Ad Lav » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:10 am

Looks great, nice work!

Are you pleased with the new dmd and sounds?
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Postby jhamm » Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:09 pm

The driving behaviour with the DMD is very good, the sound is acceptable.
I have exchanged the DMD for a Beier SFR-1-HL - now the sound is also very good. :haha:

The model itself is very light, this makes it bounce.
On solid ground, the grip of the plastic tracks is not very good.
I will add weight...
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Postby jhamm » Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:21 am

Hi,
i did the last modifications.
Loaders periscope and antenna base:
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