Tamiya Pz IV Ausf.F1
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Tamiya Pz IV Ausf.F1
Hi Folks,
I have it on "good" authority that Santa will be bringing me a Tamiya Pz IV (it's good to be Santa! ). I want to build it into a D.A.K. F1. Santa will also be bringing a Trumpeter G kit for some additional details and possibly to build a D.A.K. F2. I have considered a D.A.K. Ausf.E just because it would be a unique build with the changes to the frontal armor.
Will someone help me understand what the encircled structures purpose is? Is it to limit max depression of the main gun?
TIA,
Barry
I have it on "good" authority that Santa will be bringing me a Tamiya Pz IV (it's good to be Santa! ). I want to build it into a D.A.K. F1. Santa will also be bringing a Trumpeter G kit for some additional details and possibly to build a D.A.K. F2. I have considered a D.A.K. Ausf.E just because it would be a unique build with the changes to the frontal armor.
Will someone help me understand what the encircled structures purpose is? Is it to limit max depression of the main gun?
TIA,
Barry
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Re: Tamiya Pz IV Ausf.F1
Hi Barry I always thought it was a guide to push the antenna mast out of the way when the turret rotation was engaged.....
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That mate is exactly what Mr Rainford said, an insulated guide to force the aerial out of the way futon traverse .
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Re: Tamiya Pz IV Ausf.F1
Carl and Herman are quite right,
Remember to remove it if you are building a late Ausf "G" or an Ausf "H" or an Ausf "J" because the Aerial was relocated to the right rear flank on those types.
Remember to remove it if you are building a late Ausf "G" or an Ausf "H" or an Ausf "J" because the Aerial was relocated to the right rear flank on those types.
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I am always a bit wary of using the "F2" designation because while the term was used in the German army it was dropped very quickly when it was found to be fouling up the spares supply chain as the quartermasters of Panzer Regiments were under the mistaken impression that the Ausf "F1" and the Ausf "F2" were similar when in fact they were completely different in a number of ways most especially the main gun and mantlet,
Indeed the "Tommies" in North Africa referred to the Ausf "F2" as "Specials", It was officially redesignated as the Ausf "G".
Indeed the "Tommies" in North Africa referred to the Ausf "F2" as "Specials", It was officially redesignated as the Ausf "G".
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Re: Tamiya Pz IV Ausf.F1
Thanks guys!
Antenna Deflector, I knew the answer would be found here.
I have already picked up several publications covering the Pz IV but no where could I find the answer. I was/am also surprised that there are so few good photos of the Ausf. F1 at least in the 4 books I have thus far. If anyone knows of a good source of photos of D.A.K F1s I would be most appreciative.
I have read about the F2/G confusion and if I go that direction it will be an early F2/G with the single baffle, ball shaped muzzle brake.
For some reason I am drawn to the F1 version in D.A.K. service can't really explain it.
Barry
Antenna Deflector, I knew the answer would be found here.
I have already picked up several publications covering the Pz IV but no where could I find the answer. I was/am also surprised that there are so few good photos of the Ausf. F1 at least in the 4 books I have thus far. If anyone knows of a good source of photos of D.A.K F1s I would be most appreciative.
I have read about the F2/G confusion and if I go that direction it will be an early F2/G with the single baffle, ball shaped muzzle brake.
For some reason I am drawn to the F1 version in D.A.K. service can't really explain it.
Barry
Last edited by BarryC on Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Tamiya Pz IV Ausf.F1
Barry Hi,
I usually find myself referring for photographic back up to Paul Thomas's "Panzer IV at War" 1939-1945,
It is part of the "Images Of War" series,
ISBN 978-1-84884-681-4,
133 pages of black and white pictures some more grainy than others in a soft cover book of 146 pages.
I have had this book for some years and I don't know if it is still available but it shows every Panzer 4 variant many of them while serving in the field.
Recommended.
I usually find myself referring for photographic back up to Paul Thomas's "Panzer IV at War" 1939-1945,
It is part of the "Images Of War" series,
ISBN 978-1-84884-681-4,
133 pages of black and white pictures some more grainy than others in a soft cover book of 146 pages.
I have had this book for some years and I don't know if it is still available but it shows every Panzer 4 variant many of them while serving in the field.
Recommended.
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Re: Tamiya Pz IV Ausf.F1
Barry for the Rivet counters amongst us you have to be careful when allocating PZ4s to the Afrika Korp because the DAK refers to the Corp HQ and a few outer units.
Certainly not very many of the Armoured formations that are usually attributed to it.
Indeed the Tunisian Tigers were never a part of the DAK and none of them carried the stylised palm tree marking,
German soldiers who served in the North African campaign would to a man proudly boast of serving with the Afrika Korp when their unit was not in fact part of the DAK.
Certainly not very many of the Armoured formations that are usually attributed to it.
Indeed the Tunisian Tigers were never a part of the DAK and none of them carried the stylised palm tree marking,
German soldiers who served in the North African campaign would to a man proudly boast of serving with the Afrika Korp when their unit was not in fact part of the DAK.
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Re: Tamiya Pz IV Ausf.F1
Thank you sir!
I found the book on eBay.
I understand what you are saying about the assignments.
Barry
I found the book on eBay.
I understand what you are saying about the assignments.
Barry
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Re: Tamiya Pz IV Ausf.F1
book is also available here https://www.pen-and-sword.co.uk/Panzer- ... Pub/p/4923. might grab a copy myself for when I start on my one
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