Tamiya Pershing - Alice who?!

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Postby jimbo_wa » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:01 pm

Damn this forum and all who sail in her!

Yep, because of you (and no other reason - it wasn't my fault) I now have a third tank in the space of three months...

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It was an eBay splurge from the weekend that turned up today with a visitor from Swansea!

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The real reason for the box though was Alice... (not sure who she is!)

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It made the journey without too much trouble, a few bits have fallen off in shipping, but overall is in decent nick - just smells a bit of fags...

Opened up, I think it's a early version as it's not using LED's and fibres for the lights. With the only thing that seems missing being the rear red LED.

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It also has all the detail parts, some seem welded onto the hull(!) however the 50cal isn't original - oh well!
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I'm in two minds to keep it running the stock electrics or swap out for an Open Panzer board as I will be connecting with a FrSky Tx.

Wanting to have this as my IR battler so simplicity and reliability are the way to go.

If there is anything that needs replacing or upgrading, I'll deal with it eventually with the three tanks and five total builds in progress...

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Postby tomhugill » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:04 pm

If you're using as a battler (and they battle brilliantly), I'd stick to the stock electrics, they just work, no fuss.

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Postby PainlessWolf » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:18 pm

Good morning,
Enjoy that Pershing! That kit is still one of the best that Tamiya offers. I used many parts from it to kit bash my original Heng Long Pershing into a real beauty of a tank. Pics of your build as you restore and remake. ( if you can find a product over there called 'Natures Miracle', mist your tank and parts lightly with it and let it air dry. It should remove the cigarette odor. It is made for pet messes and is a natural oxygenator ) Tank doesn't look yellowed so it didn't belong to a five pack a day-er at least.
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Postby c.rainford73 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:41 pm

That's a spectacular piece. The stock electronics are the way to go like Tom said
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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:08 pm

Ahhh...isn't it wonderful, how modern living allows the individual to blame anyone else (and everyone else), for his, or her, lack of self-restraint :haha: :thumbup:
Oscar Wilde once said that the 'only way to overcome temptation, is to yield to it!..." and yield he did :D But, I don't think he blamed anyone but himself for that. :)
In stark contrast to my youth (around the time of William Wallace :haha: ), when selfishness was frowned upon; it's now it's applauded and encouraged in the modern (consumerist world).
Thus, Jimbo, I salute your profligate ways and accept- in a small part- responsibility for your willful self-indulgence :thumbup:
What a beaut! Carry on splashing the cash, so we can enjoy it too- vicariously :D :thumbup:
It looks like it has been well looked after, and had hardly seen the light of day, judging by the freshness of the green plastic.
If you take a pic of the MFU and post it here, it will be possible to check whether the MFU has the connection port for lights. If so, the bits you need should be obtainable from Axel's. Here:
https://www.axels-modellbau-shop.de/kat ... e-parts~2/
The light unit's not available currently, but you could always order it, or find one secondhand... (prelurved) Check the other bits out that you might need.
Lucky man!
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Postby jimbo_wa » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:43 pm

Thanks Tom and Carl - yep, keep the stock electrics it is!

PainlessWolf - that looks great, I'll do what I can to try and match you! Natures Miracle, blimey it better be at around £18/bottle from Amazon UK... Looks like there are slightly cheaper alternatives, will look into it. Thanks you for the pointer.

Roy, I know it's *really* my fault, but no-one's been harmed yet and the Wife has seen it without verbal comment - appreciate that you're stepping up to the plate as my proxy. :clap: Good quoting too - OW came up with a multitude of 'em.

It does seem in almost immaculate condition, scraping off the hot glue to reattach bits has helped enormously, and I may skip on the updated lighting at €38 when I have some red SMD LED's somewhere. However, the V/W trees for the 50cal may be a worthwhile investment...

I deffo have the CN5 connector on the MFU if I do win the Lotto!

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Just take stock and stop spending as the year's hobby fund is overdrawn already - an A34 Comet is the 'only' tank I'm now missing! ;)
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Postby maxmekker » Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:37 pm

Congrats :thumbup:

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Postby jimbo_wa » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:08 pm

That looks great in the snow, hope we get a spring freeze now!

What are the tracks you have on there as they’re not the stock ones are they?


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Postby maxmekker » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:30 am

jimbo_wa wrote:That looks great in the snow, hope we get a spring freeze now!

What are the tracks you have on there as they’re not the stock ones are they?


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bought it second hand, and it hat the impact track fitted
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Postby jimbo_wa » Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:34 am

Ta, they're expensive I think...

Managed to get most bits reattached, but the rear panel rope and front left light guard are absolute bu¶¶ers...

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Put the 50cal into the rear turret holder, will remove the barrel and also place it in the rack.

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Drilled out the engine hoist points as it was quick and easy!

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Does anyone know what this is supposed to attach to - it may be from another kit as I cannot see it on the instruction sheet sprues?

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Also got it running in a fashion. Lights turn on and off with the right stick/tap up, machine gun fires with left stick/tap right and cannon fires with left stick/tap left. The turret turns on right stick up/down and elevation on left stick left/right.

But no gear selection on either stick, so no drive.

The sounds are all good.

Wired the FrSky PWM Rx as in the instructions and am not attempting to use extra switches on my FrSky X-Lite Tx. Looks like a channel order issue?

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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:50 am

That looks like some kind of locking hatch handle for the inside of a hatch.

You've got yourself a prize there Mr jimbo_wa :thumbup:
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Postby jimbo_wa » Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:56 am

Son of a gun-ner wrote:That looks like some kind of locking hatch handle for the inside of a hatch.

You've got yourself a prize there Mr jimbo_wa :thumbup:


Yep, dammed if I can find out where it goes though!

Thanks Mick, considering that I have two Taigen metal tanks as well, the quality of Tamiya plastic is streets ahead and almost as heavy too...


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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:00 pm

I think the plastic is a little thinner on the hull and turret, but Tamiya do do quality mouldings.

Looking at that part, maybe it is off of another tank/toy and accidentally got put in with the Pershing?!
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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:01 pm

43rdRecceReg wrote:If you take a pic of the MFU and post it here, it will be possible to check whether the MFU has the connection port for lights. If so, the bits you need should be obtainable from Axel's. Here:
https://www.axels-modellbau-shop.de/kat ... e-parts~2/
The light unit's not available currently, but you could always order it, or find one secondhand... (prelurved) Check the other bits out that you might need.
Lucky man!


You all know I am sick at saving money, but from all the tamiya parts, maybe the most overpriced one is the lights control. It is an absolute waste of money, and you can have way better results with a 1 euro free shipping electronic switch.

The old incandescent bulbs system was weak and fragile, and the newer optic fiber system just does not work as it should. Sure the headlights will have a nice color, but the light almost does not go away from the headlights, making them useless for driving at night. (Yeah, I love my own night patrols,lol)

If our colleague has some SMD leds for the rear lights (that already has) he just needs to grab some leds for the headlights (I use 3mm warm white leds, less than a euro 100 of them) and the switch. So as I said for about euro you have a very good system that works.

No mention, of course, that you can use that system in any tank, including those tamiyas that come with no lights.

38 euros + about 10 shipping for the axels modelbau system, jesus christ...
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Postby jimbo_wa » Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:25 pm

Yep, I will end up building my own lighting loom...

I hate pinning parts together!

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Postby jarndice » Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:50 pm

If you look at the inside of a Tiger 1 cupola hatch you will see 3 of these fitted around the edge, They are used to lock the hatch shut.

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Postby jimbo_wa » Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:53 pm

jarndice wrote:If you look at the inside of a Tiger 1 cupola hatch you will see 3 of these fitted around the edge, They are used to lock the hatch shut.


Thanks, anyone need one FoC?!


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Postby HERMAN BIX » Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:21 pm

I have those too. Got a few of them in an estate sale lot when I got my king tiger. Great for bunker doors and hatches on tanks.
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Postby jarndice » Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:37 pm

Not for me, I have a bag of them which I got from
www.hagen-miniatures.de/index.php/en/
A brilliant site for those elusive upgrades. :thumbup:

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Postby PainlessWolf » Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:31 pm

Good morning,
Build yourself a detailed rear bulkhead for that tank. It really deserves one. The working barrel lock is a great start from Tamiya but other things can be scratched out fairly easily as well.
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