Challenger 2 - for me, not you!

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After a solid, and meticulous start from Jimbo, this Chally is going to be very special with your trademark finishing and detailing, Tom. :thumbup:
A question, if I may. As you're now an avowed fan of the PDSGB gearbox, do you think that one could be adapted for use with, say, A Tamiya Panther? The website only mentions Taigen, Heng Long, Torro, and so on, and there's no reference to Tamiya Tanks.
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43rdRecceReg wrote:After a solid, and meticulous start from Jimbo, this Chally is going to be very special with your trademark finishing and detailing, Tom. Image
A question, if I may. As you're now an avowed fan of the PDSGB gearbox, do you think that one could be adapted for use with, say, A Tamiya Panther? The website only mentions Taigen, Heng Long, Torro, and so on, and there's no reference to Tamiya Tanks.
If itll fit itll work. The limitations are you'll have to use electronics that support differential gearboxes and at the moment they only do shafts that will take hl style sprockets. That said I did mention it to Carson who said if you could provide a card drawing for the tamiya shafts it could probably be done.

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Been a while since I have posted any build progress I'd lost my mojo a bit but I've been slowly tinkering away on the chally, chieftain and another centurion.

Some may remember the group buy for the armoured models challenger 2 TES kit, I finally got mine out early last week and started on it.

I'll do a write up but I'm afraid I didnt get masses of pictures oh each step.

I also felt the need to crack on as once BarryC works his magic itll be an act hard (impossible) to follow!!)

First impressions of the kit were excellent, sturdy box, loads of kit really well packed.

On closer inspection this does change, the side skirts are really hefty pieces, they sit on a backing plate which is also printed. I've been sceptical about printed large flat items over styrene from a print quality perspective and strength too.

However these are fantastic, Armoured models know their printing onions, quality is brilliant and the parts are very strong, I think a high infill must be used.

The bar armour is especially good, no clean up required on the main sections and only a little on the lower rear bit.

The smaller more detailed bits are done in resin (printed) and are well done, the ecm pod face even has the option of an auto bots icon embossed a la megatron.

Now onto the actual build.

The first job was assembling the Dorchester armour modules, theres one piece for each skirt and then multiple parts for the turret sides which stick onto a single base piece either side.

To improve the representation of the rivets they are printed separately in resin and the builder as to attach them.

Here is a built up one.

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To make life (slightly) easier you are supplied with thin face piece which are very smooth and have the guide holes for the rivets in. You glue these to the thick blocks, then drill out the holes with a 1.3mm bit. I wont lie, there are probably well over 200 rivets to do and it's a slow process, I took about 8 hours all told. However nothing good ever came easy and I think the results justify the effort.

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James supplies far more rivets than needed and even with my butter fingers dropping a lot there were still about 40 left at the end.

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Once the chobham was done it was time to attach things to the chally. I started with the front armour. Unfortunately this obliterated some of the brilliant detailing jim did. However I did managed to salvage everything bar the styrene armour plate.

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Whilst jim had done a great job with the head lights I realised the dimensions weren't quite right stock and it made it impossible the place the other furniture on the front plate.

Luckily I was supplied with some metal leopard 2 head lamps. The detail is gorgeous and whilst not right ootb they were a better base to start with.

The stock lights attached straight to the support with no stalk, this meant they were positioned wrong or the bases were in the wrong place. On the leo ones the stalk was too long but it gave scope to cut it back. The other big difference is the leo headlights have an appendage on top of the unit, this was cut off, blended and filled where needed. The backing supports from hl were retained but trimmed to match the new head light bases. A hole for the led wires was drilled through the front plate and everything attached.

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The rest went on without much fuss, I drilled the holes for the big rivets slightly and cut the half conical pieces slightly to get everything to fit at the right angle.



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From here on things happen quickly as the bulk of the work is done (even if not much is attached).

The next job was the skirts.

On my chally jim had removed the skirts which was going to present problems with fitment. I chopped styrene in search to a solution, which looked possible but requiring careful measurement. However I was saved. Jim had included the removed skirts! They had been removed so nearly I had but to stick them on and we were good to go.

The backing plate was test fit with everything aligning perfectly. This was glued to the armour blocks and the whole thing super glued on.

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The result is really really solid, big thumbs up!

Now the sides were on I could add the resin fronts and the covers over the indicators.

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Next up is the bar armour. As I said earlier this is really well done. Theres some slight trade of between thickness and strength but I think armoured models have struck the right balance.

The fit and finish is perfect, there are some separate mounts which had me scratching my head, but there are some assembly photos on the armoured models facebook page which were invaluable.

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The rear portion has supports which correspond roughly to the fule drum mounts with the lip at the bottom facing out.

Really important at this point is not to attach the supports to the rear plate and the bar armour. I did this and realised I'd effectively glued the top and bottom together! DOH!

On mine I opted to attach the supports to the tank as it's a more solid join.

The way the rear jerry can holder, phone box etc are to get the top on an off you have to slot the rear of the upper down first getting the gap in the bar armour under the aforementioned bits. The front can then slide down. On mine I had to remove some ribs which sit behind the chobham front plate to get the front over cleanly.

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tomhugill wrote:I also felt the need to crack on as once BarryC works his magic it'll be an act hard (impossible) to follow!!)
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Following along Tom, NO idea when I might start on mine. I am still searching for reference material and not finding a lot of books with walkaround type of photos of the TES version.

Keep up the great work!
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Next up is the affectionately known bird table. This houses anti IED antennas and other bits. The top and bottom come separately with pre made holes for the legs and the main 3 antenna.

Be really careful you get the top piece the right way round as it wasnt readily obvious to me and there seem to be different configurations on the real one.

I found the singular leg is at the front and the two at the rear and on top the single holes at the front and two at the rear. In addition there are two extra antenna bases for either side of the bird table.

The legs are hollow plastic tubes and cone with 3 resin pieces which plug in and allow the bird table to sit flat. The short one at the front and two longer ones at the back. They also are slightly sloped at the bottom to match the angle of the turret so make sure they're oriented properly.

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At this point the detail bug got the better of me and I cracked out the brass.

I've added normal antennas and had a stab at the bird cage arrangement.

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BarryC wrote:
tomhugill wrote:I also felt the need to crack on as once BarryC works his magic it'll be an act hard (impossible) to follow!!)
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Following along Tom, NO idea when I might start on mine. I am still searching for reference material and not finding a lot of books with walkaround type of photos of the TES version.

Keep up the great work!
Barry
Hey barry, theres some good references for megatron on line and the Haynes manual has a full walk around of it in a slightly earlier configuration

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Good effort squire. You have really cracked on in such a short period of time. Really looking forward to the finished result :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Blimey Tom - looking good and apologies about the servo (it was brand new from eBay).

Good call on the Leopard guides on the rear sprockets and James has really made a lovely kit of 3D printed bits that do the Chally justice.

Looking forward to seeing this progress as it should have - let me know when you want to sell it back for what you paid! :haha:
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