Challenger 2 - for me, not you!

Postby jimbo_wa » Fri May 10, 2019 2:32 pm

Won this on the the Bay of e last week and it turned up today.

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First thing to do was take out the smoker...

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Checked that it all mostly works - the turret is a bit clutch dependent and there were a couple of bits snapped off during shipping. Overall I'm a happy camper as I didn't realise it came with metal idlers, sprockets and tracks - the gearbox is zinc rather than steel though (can anyone confirm please)?

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It also came with an IBU3, will plug that in later if I can find a cable that fits, so I can configure it first!

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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Fri May 10, 2019 2:42 pm

Nice find, especially if you got it for a good price :thumbup:

Yeah, silvery looking heng long gears are usually zinc alloy, heng long steel are usually blackened.

Oh, and love the second half of your thread title :D
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Postby jarndice » Fri May 10, 2019 4:09 pm

The more I see Challengers and Abrams the more I consider "Willocapris" Oshkosh Tank Hauler to be an essential adjunct to the Tank especially as both armies use pretty much the same equipment to do the job.
When you consider that British and American Tanks have almost always travelled by road within Europe unlike German and Soviet forces who primarily sent their armour by rail it still surprises me that apart from "Dinky's" Antar in whatever scale that is there has been almost no mainstream maker of Tank Transporters in 1/16,
SO Will get on with it Pleeeze. :haha:

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Postby Eastern Front » Fri May 10, 2019 4:27 pm

I know the American forces do travel by rail in Germany, they almost never go by road unless its a very short distance...Just saying :D

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Postby jarndice » Fri May 10, 2019 4:37 pm

I have considered sending a bill to the US Defence Department for the Hours lost stuck behind convoy after convoy of American Transporters in Germany during the 60s/70s :haha: The British were not much better around Sennelager :thumbdown:

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Postby Black Knight » Fri May 10, 2019 5:27 pm

jimbo_wa wrote:Won this on the the Bay of e last week and it turned up today.

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First thing to do was take out the smoker...

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Checked that it all mostly works - the turret is a bit clutch dependent and there were a couple of bits snapped off during shipping. Overall I'm a happy camper as I didn't realise it came with metal idlers, sprockets and tracks - the gearbox is zinc rather than steel though (can anyone confirm please)?

Nice! Always good to see not another Tiger :haha: :haha:

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It also came with an IBU3, will plug that in later if I can find a cable that fits, so I can configure it first!

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Postby jimbo_wa » Sat May 11, 2019 10:23 am

Thanks Mick, thought that would be the case!

jarndice, can't afford a carrier in terms of space or cash!!


Wardog wrote:That's a big tank with a lot of room,and a lengthy track.If you have metal tracks your need steel gears to cope.


You're not wrong...

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Slightly larger than expected!

One gearbox does seem to have a bent shaft, they're noisy and flex a lot too.

In an ideal world I'd get a DKLM replacement, but that's for the future...

Should be able to knock up some aluminium angle to stiffen the lower hull first.

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Postby Black Knight » Sat May 11, 2019 11:07 am

jimbo_wa wrote:Thanks Mick, thought that would be the case!

jarndice, can't afford a carrier in terms of space or cash!!


Wardog wrote:That's a big tank with a lot of room,and a lengthy track.If you have metal tracks your need steel gears to cope.


You're not wrong...

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Slightly larger than expected!

One gearbox does seem to have a bent shaft, they're noisy and flex a lot too.

In an ideal world I'd get a DKLM replacement, but that's for the future...

Should be able to knock up some aluminium angle to stiffen the lower hull first.

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The DKLM kit is fantastic! I bought the metal chasis and PDSG - no flex at all now !!! However, from what I've read - many people have had great succes using aluminium strips/angled edge - good luck :clap: :D

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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Sat May 11, 2019 1:39 pm

Chris Ludwig does a metal internal frame for beefing the Challenger up and eliminating torsional movement. It looks fairly decent, and a reasonable price at 55 Euros (+ post)...
http://www.ludwigs-hobby-seite.de/Chall ... 0Tank.html
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Postby tankme » Wed May 15, 2019 7:23 pm

Easy way to tell what your gears are made out of...if a magnet sticks to the gears they are steel. If it doesn't they are zinc.

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Postby jimbo_wa » Wed May 15, 2019 8:50 pm

tankme wrote:Easy way to tell what your gears are made out of...if a magnet sticks to the gears they are steel. If it doesn't they are zinc.
Good point, well made.

They're zinc!

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Postby Docomar750 » Thu May 16, 2019 8:26 am

Hi

Looking forward to your build.

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Postby jimbo_wa » Sat May 18, 2019 1:52 pm

Thanks Darren!

Managed to strip everything off the hull, cut out the battery box, filled in the holes and added some 2mm aluminium corner and strip from B&Q to get some rigidity on the lower part.

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Used magnets for the attachment of the upper...

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And added a set of James Canham late wheels and cut off the bazooka plates as I'm going to attempt to make them from brass sheet.

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Lots still to do!

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Postby jimbo_wa » Tue May 21, 2019 2:58 pm

And I hereby change thy name to Disco!

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200ml of clear art Epoxy with green dye crystals (that didn't turn it green) and gold glitter...

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Postby jimbo_wa » Thu May 23, 2019 2:42 pm

Been making some mud guards for the front and rear sections using 1mm and 0.5mm Nitrile from eBay and Styrene off-cuts.

Luckily my trusty liquid solvent bonds the Nitrile and Styrene to the Heng Long plastic nicely!

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I then used contact adhesive to bond on the thinner sheet and trimmed to fit.

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The rears are both done.

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Needed to add Styrene to the rear of the Nitrile so it would conform to the side correctly - a tiny screw ensures that it can be removed if necessary.

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Postby PainlessWolf » Thu May 23, 2019 3:30 pm

Good morning,
Very, very nice detail work there!
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Thu May 23, 2019 11:34 pm

Subtle , like the b in subtle!!
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Postby jimbo_wa » Wed May 29, 2019 11:33 am

Thanks Painless and Herman, I'm enjoying this one quite a bit!

Been adding some brass detailing, metal bits and Styrene to the upper.

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Also made a speaker box for the Visaton Oval Broadband SC 5.9 (4Ohms) as even though it's a big old chunk of plastic, I've run out of space once the battery and IBU3 are installed...

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I now have 5 reference books and another on the way - detailing may take some time!

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Postby jimbo_wa » Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:39 pm

Slowly cracking on with the build...

Making the front indicators functional with a 3mm orange LED on each side, modifying the stock plastics by cutting, drilling and swearing!

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Once the heatshrink is heated it conforms to the desired routing on the hull.

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Postby jimbo_wa » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:28 pm

Yep Wardog, also seen a speaker in the turret too.

Getting a bit carried away by the brass bits - I'm basing this build on the black version of Nomad, which was shown during the Royal Tank Regiment amalgamation ceremony. I've only got 3 pictures (left and right sides and a almost front on view) to work from so it's a bit of guesstimating as there are some details that I'm not quite sure about.

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Anyway, onto the pictures!

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The barrel lock isn't functional, but at least it won't fall off!

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I'm going to do the front lights again as I realised they had another light under the indicator and the headlights now sit on top of the additional armour plate...

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