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Postby hawkeye3guns » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:35 am

Hi All
My Names Denzil (Hawkeye3guns on Forum).
I am looking to form a RC Tank Club Based in the Grantham, Lincolnshire, UK. I have had past exsperiance in running a RC model club (28 years as a member and secretary of a Model Boat club).
I have got enquirys in to 2 local Social halls in grantham that have a open floor space of 10m wide x 15m long and then have tables around the outside. Both halls have a bar and kitchen and are availible to hire as an extra for a small price.
The idea is to hire a hall on the first Sunday of each month for a meet and / or battle.
At present I am looking at a cost of opproxiamate £50 -£60 hire price each month. Thats from 09.00am till 16.00pm.
We would also need a public liability Issurance in order to cover ourselves against any mishaps if we was to hold displays or damage to property,personnel.
If enough people/Tankers are intrested, I would envisage a small annual membership fee ( to cover Issurance costs and admin) this could be as low as a £5.00 (depends on Issurance cost) also I can canvas our local model shops and quite often if you are a member of a local club if you produce a membership card they will give discount).
The Idea would then be to charge a fee on the meeting day in order to cover the hall hiring. As an example ,Hall = £60 to hire so if 12 people attended then it would be a £5 each. for the day.
Grantham is just off the A1 (about 1mile) and easily accessible from both the south or north.
So my question is are there enough people out there in the surrounding areas that are intrested in forming a local club.
You can contact me through this forum (if allowed by the admin I'm not sure of the rules) or ring me on my mobile 07939815063 or E-mail denzil@ison57.freeserve.co.uk, and I will start a list of intrested people to see if we can move forward on this.
regards Denzil
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Postby Tankbear » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:46 am

Hi Denzil,

I be interested in coming, I probably can’t come every month as already go to MAD every month. I also setup the MAD website which is free, so if you want I can copy it and give you or others admin rights to change, add pictures, etc. which should help spread the word. Also Facebook is a good tool for getting audience to the club. And You Tube if you add info at end of the video, and I know you’ve got some great tanks.

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Postby KTRob » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:38 pm

I'd be interested, Grantham is only about 70 miles from me.
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Postby wibblywobbly » Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:15 pm

May I wish you good luck with your venture, let's hope that a few more around the country take the plunge and get clubs going, it will be the best thing that happened to this hobby. :thumbup:

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Postby Horses45 » Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:21 pm

I could be intrested but again depending on dates and work as it works with the MAD meets that I'm always on shift when they are on

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Postby tankman » Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:16 pm

Go for it, its a great way of growing the hobby by attracting new people into the wonderfull world of RC tanks. Your experience of running a model boat club will stand you in good stead while things get off the ground.
Good luck and I hope it all goes well for you and your new club in 2015.
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Postby hawkeye3guns » Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:01 pm

Hi all
As an update I have a local Social club (Great Goneby Social Club) that is intrested in hiring out their hall on the first sunday of each month it has both a bar and a kitchen that we can negotiate a price for (at the moment they are talking of about £50 for the day to cover heating and lighting (thats from 09.30am till 16.30pm). The hall has approximately a free floor area of 10m wide x 15m long and then has seating and tables around the outside and a carpark for about 50 cars. It has easy access being on the main road into grantham straight off the A1 (about 1 mile from A1). At one time the local RC car club use to hire the hall for indoor racing. so if its big enough for that I think it should be big enough for a tank battle area.
I have approuch the club and talked but not committed anything in writing untill I can get some idea of peoples responce to find out if the club would be a viable going concern.
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Postby Merlin707 » Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:36 am

Hi Denzil, hopefully we will be able to drum up enough interest and get us folks on this side of the country a good club to run our tanks with like minded individuals who enjoy this hobby.
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Postby jaw7620 » Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:04 pm

I would come over as I am only in Derby so not far at all,however my tanks are not battlers only have the airsoft versions

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Postby ALPHA » Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:43 pm

Greetings Gents.... Most of you know there is no way I could join one of your clubs....so as an outsider...since this club is just a concept...to find a center of balance...and perhaps provide a "friendlier" foundation...find the type of tanks people would be running most.... it would be an assumption ..that many will have either Heng longs or Taigens...perhaps some Torros.... I think both the Torros and Taigens are IR compatible ....so just as a suggestion to consider....run individual battles...this would mean HLs battle HLs.... Torros and Taigens battle Torros and Taigens....you could even incorporate BB battles...by making a small investment in a chrono...that way you could assure there is no modification to the gun mech....have the tanks wear some kind of cut out ...the cut out is to be shot off...once it is shot off the tank is dead until the owner replaces it

Remember this is just a suggestion...to me it opens the doors for the recruitment of a more diverse community of RC tankers...ranging from Novice to Pro ...also allowing for a relatively even battle plain ;)

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Postby RobW » Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:26 pm

Just bought a BB T34 and may not be about much, but if it gets going will try and drop in. Am in Sheffield, but the outlaws are in Grantham; it's marginally closer than MAD, but mainly easier because there are decent roads!

Not sure I'd fancy using BB in confined spaces - too many opportunities for damaging the light fittings & each other!

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Postby tomhugill » Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:24 pm

BBs are a nightmare, who wants to detail their tank up to have bits shot off! I think ir is best in a club setting. Using Tamiya standard for battling isn't really difficult or expensive.

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Postby Merlin707 » Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:42 am

But why should people have to Tom?
It doesn't matter if it's difficult or expensive at all, a club should cater to all.

Even if people only have bb tanks, they can still come along to drive round a modelled environment or just come for the day out to meet and get ideas or advice from other like minded people.
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Postby The Tank Man » Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:21 am

Unfotunatley Air soft Tanks can not be used with loaded pellets in them but they can still drive around like any other tank at our Club in Manchester.
Basicaly our liabilty insurance does not cover air soft.
Plus the health and safety aspect of it would be a nightmare As people would have to wear protective googles and you have the possiblity of spectators getting hit by stray air soft balls.
Plus as we are mostley indoors think about this! One tank will kick out 100 plus balls probley more in the 8 hour meet so imagine 15 plus tanks all running around shooting yellow balls!
People could trip on them and fall you could end up with a law suit on your hands.
Plus the ball's would have to be collected up i would fancy having to sqobble about finding them all.
Plus the owners of the building mite complain they keep finding balls around the building.
Plus as Tom says we have a lot of heavily detailed tanks and most members would not want them shot at!
Other things are your tank wont slow down after its hit and somone would have to be judgeing to see who hit who.
Seems a bit pointless to me when the IR systems are so much better for simulated battleing.

In a nut shell the M.A.D club is IR only when it comes to battles
I don't no any clubs out there that actualy cater for airsoft tanks.
But im sure somone will start a club up for them at sompoint.
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Postby AlwynTurner » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:18 am

Hi as a newbie having just got my first tank working, I am really not concerned about battling (although I am sure some competitive members relish this aspect) I am just happy (delighted!) to have an environment at MAD where I can bring my tank, practice around the obstacles, and chat to the other members and get advice. I think it all depends on what individual members motivations are. All I can say is that I find the MAD meetings really beneficial and motivational to see other members tanks, and wish everyone all the best in setting up a new tank club. Cheers. Alwyn
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Postby tomhugill » Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:25 am

Merlin707 wrote:But why should people have to Tom?
It doesn't matter if it's difficult or expensive at all, a club should cater to all.

Even if people only have bb tanks, they can still come along to drive round a modelled environment or just come for the day out to meet and get ideas or advice from other like minded people.



As Gary said there no issue with people running bb tanks, as long as they aren't loaded!

The Tamiya standard is used in pretty much all hobby grade electronics systems so it makes sense to have it as the standard. Usually people will loan tanks out to others that don't have tanks that meet the standard. Also in most clubs you won't be having organised battles all the time so there's plenty of opportunity for tanks with toy grade electronics to play.

I'm just going off what has worked at MAD for the past three years.

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Postby tankman » Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:32 pm

Gentlemen, before we get too carried away with details let us consider that this club will be set up by hawkeye3guns and to that end he and his fellow members must be allowed to set there club up as they see fit.
The club constitution and rules should be set by those paying club membership not by those who are not contributing to that clubs costs. I know you would all agree that is only right.
To that end why don't we all just take a step back and allow Denzel sort out how he and the guys want to set there club up. Offering support and encouragement where and when requested or required
At this point I would like to wish Denzel all the best in his endevour and say that any help or advice I can offer is yours should you require or request it.
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Postby tomhugill » Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:45 pm

Just trying to offer up some of the experience we've learnt from our three years as a club Alan. Hopefully some of us from MAD will be able to make it over Denzil, always good to see you fantastic engineering vehicles!

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Postby 971wright » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:08 pm

Hi Guys Everyone has there own ideas of what they want from a club , but as most start with the Heng Long which should have the RX18 fitted, cheap way to battle is to fit a Heng Long Battle unit (you can fit them to a BB version and clip the emitter to the barrel Tamiya style) the battle units are about £10 and emitters from maplins about £1 bit of wiring and your off you can keep the BB working just turn off with the switch.
This gives you a cheap start to I.R.battling ,till you make your mind up which way you want to go (some clubs in Europe don't do battling in any way just do driving and building obstacle's to get round or over ) this I know Denzil would love .
Starting from scratch is hard no buildings bridges or other things to drive round/over. Just an empty room , cardboard boxes can be used to start (the first meeting we had at Bovington we used boxes and other bits we could hide behind ).One other thing to consider is the floor you run on if it is polished wood they will not like it if you run metal tracks over it and scratch it to blazes . This is the reason we put boards down at Hyde.


regards pete

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Postby The Tank Man » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:48 pm

Densil has his own ideas about his club will be great to see some :thumbup: of them at the show were doing with him in the summer should be good fun !!
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