Weld seams - King Tiger

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Postby whitewolf » Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:02 pm

Hi guys, I'm curious, does anyone do any aftermarket weld seams in etched or resin for the KT? Given the scale, I would be surprised if no one does?
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Postby Model Builder 4 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:25 pm

Hello whitewolf, I am not aware of anyone supplying ready made weld seams in 1/16 :think: a method myself and many others on the forum use is to do them yourself using a putty such as vallejo model putty or milliput, you could also use small sections of spare sprues which can be melted using plastic weld and then shaped, I hope this may give you some ideas :thumbup:

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Postby Herr Dr. Professor » Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:57 pm

Actually, I believe I recall seeing online somewhere cast weld seams for 1/16, but I don't even recall where to start looking. To me, Model Builder Lee's advice works best. I use putty, let it firm up just a bit, and patiently squish in "beads" with a tiny, flat tool (even a miniature screwdriver works). I think gluing in plastic cast seams would be more work and perhaps not suited to the variety of welds on an AFV.
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Postby tankme » Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:14 pm

1/16th scale is largely ignored by most manufacturers as far as aftermarket goes. There are so many more detail parts for smaller scales. Most of us do our own weld seems by the methods already listed (Milliput, Green Stuff, melted sprue/styrene rod softened with Tamiya extra thin cement). With all the various King Tigers out there made by different manufacturers it would even be hard to come up with a kit that applied to all of them.

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Postby SCHWEREPANZER » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:16 pm

Shapeways is now offering 'weld seams' in varying
dimensions. May be worth a look if more traditional
methods aren't used.

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Postby whitewolf » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:14 pm

Do you have a direct link?

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Postby SCHWEREPANZER » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:52 pm

Here is one example: https://www.shapeways.com/product/LJ3BBDTE8/weld-beads-3mm?optionId=63634227&li=marketplace

But there are others by the same vendor. Good luck, and if you go this route, maybe you could give us your assessment of the product.

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Postby BarryC » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:30 pm

How wide, on average are weld beads on: WWII, Modern armor?

Are most weld beads on modern armor machine welds as opposed to manual?

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Postby Herr Dr. Professor » Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:06 pm

Thank you for the link, Schwerepanzer. I would never have remembered where I saw those.
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Postby tankme » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:08 pm

BarryC wrote:How wide, on average are weld beads on: WWII, Modern armor?

Are most weld beads on modern armor machine welds as opposed to manual?

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I would say most welds even on modern armor are done by hand. If you produce up to 1400 GMC SUVs in a plant per day and each weld needs to be aesthetically pleasing then I would say a robot would be a good solution. Seeing as most Abrams are made in a lot smaller batches than that I would say the added expense of a robot isn't worth it for most tasks. I don't remember seeing any welding robots in the Lima refurb plant for the Abrams.

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Postby SCHWEREPANZER » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:48 pm

10-4, Herr Doktor

If you go that route, please let us know what you think of them.

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Postby BarryC » Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:16 pm

I ask about the width and type of welds because "Archer Fine Transfers" makes resin welds in varying widths and two different types.

http://www.archertransfers.com/SurfaceDetailsArmor.html

I have several sets and hope to be able to use them on my Abrams. :thumbup:

I also have some PE Welds made by Hobby Design.

https://www.bnamodelworld.com/model-car ... edba4361d0

Top Studio also does PE Welds

https://www.bnamodelworld.com/model-car ... edba4361d0

https://www.bnamodelworld.com/model-car ... edba4361d0

I have the Hobby Design set but do not have the Top Studio.

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Postby whitewolf » Sat May 01, 2021 11:18 am

I note shapeways do a 1/16 set with 1mm and 4mm weld seams? The difficulty is knowing how wide the seams needs to be on the model? Welds in differing areas will be differing sizes depending on what was being welded.

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Postby whitewolf » Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:09 pm

BarryC wrote:I ask about the width and type of welds because "Archer Fine Transfers" makes resin welds in varying widths and two different types.

http://www.archertransfers.com/SurfaceDetailsArmor.html

I have several sets and hope to be able to use them on my Abrams. :thumbup:

I also have some PE Welds made by Hobby Design.

https://www.bnamodelworld.com/model-car ... edba4361d0

Top Studio also does PE Welds

https://www.bnamodelworld.com/model-car ... edba4361d0

https://www.bnamodelworld.com/model-car ... edba4361d0

I have the Hobby Design set but do not have the Top Studio.

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These look good! How wide are the 1/16 weld lines?

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Postby whitewolf » Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:09 pm

I finally got my hands on 2 sets of the Mirage 1/16 Copper Weld line sets and 1 in 1/35. I've got to say I'm impressed! They come as a metre long string as it were and you just cut off sections as required. They are the perfect width for my KT weld seems and I'll use the smaller 1/35 for various smaller welds on fittings etc. They will certainly greatly enhance the appearance of the model!

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Postby paulc » Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:38 am

mirage hobby make copper weld seams brought a set a few months but haven't tried them yet. just search Mirage Hobby 224001 in google

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Postby Rob1970 » Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:41 am

Well, with a little practice and patience (especially the patience) and a 3D-pen you could produce any size weld seam you want... https://www.rctankwarfare.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?p=316098#p316098
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Postby Kaczor » Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:54 am

paulc wrote:mirage hobby make copper weld seams brought a set a few months but haven't tried them yet. just search Mirage Hobby 224001 in google

It's out of priduction since 2017 so it's extremly rare now.
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