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Postby Kaczor » Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:29 am

I would be more interested in the German express train if there were such a thing for cheaper postal costs? Guess we're all stuck with the tax imposed on us from that sector.....what a joke

At least in USA you don't have pay 19-23% VAT ;)
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Postby jarndice » Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:44 am

The sole reason for my failure to buy more products from ETO in the USA is the criminal US Mail costs,
It amazes me that someone in the Federal Government has not realised how much trade the US loses through people not dealing with them because of the excessive Postal Charges,
ETO do not help themselves because they are based in the Ukraine but only market through their US Shop.
I was on the look out for a set of very small Wing/Butterfly nuts and found a dealer in California with the exact item and the price was just $2.50 BUT the US Postal Service wanted to add $18 :crazy:
Unsurprisingly my custom went to China, £3 with Freepost. :thumbup:
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Postby jarndice » Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:49 am

Kaczor wrote:
I would be more interested in the German express train if there were such a thing for cheaper postal costs? Guess we're all stuck with the tax imposed on us from that sector.....what a joke

At least in USA you don't have pay 19-23% VAT ;)

Your quite right BUT they do have a number of delightful money raising schemes such as State and other taxes which more than make up for a lack of VAT.
I have a confession to make to our international members,
It was the British in the guise of Rowland Hill who introduced a postal system although at the time it was only a penny per item :lolno:
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Postby General Jumbo01 » Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:03 am

China to Barking depot is Apparently 18 days and rail guages are dealt with by changing the wagon bogies! So are we seeing airmail being used or are the Chinese retailers using locally based warehouses. All the items were listed as their China warehouse, not EU. At least Forgebear uses a UK depot.

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Postby jarndice » Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:30 am

Lots of the European Dealers send a shopping list to the various Chinese factories who fill a Container and "Ship" it out direct but "Banggood" have warehouses throughout the World and they fill containers and for the European market they send them to the CZ and/or UK warehouse where the items are individually packaged and distribution is carried out by Banggood or the local Postal service.
Product is often posted directly from the PRC to the customer depending on availability.
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Postby General Jumbo01 » Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:51 pm

Yes, and l suspect they send to local warehouses the items they are promoting but in this case all the items arrived in packaging from China, confirmed by my postie when l told him how fast they were arriving. I'd like to think this is a trend but it's probably just a freak accident caused by a multi-universe black hole transit phenomenon. There were be several reports of this discovery yesterday......

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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:59 pm

I've never bought anything from Banggood, Alibaba, Taobao et al, but I must look more closely at the benefits. :problem:
Interestingly, the Chinese are planning to build a new commercial superhighway between the PRC and Europe. It's a sort of modern Silk Road. This is the proposed route:
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/06/ ... explainer/
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Postby Shootermcgraw » Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:26 pm

Kaczor wrote:
I would be more interested in the German express train if there were such a thing for cheaper postal costs? Guess we're all stuck with the tax imposed on us from that sector.....what a joke

At least in USA you don't have pay 19-23% VAT ;)
True...Kaczor, it's absurd..... Too many hands deep into the pockets. I'm still waiting for this so called free trade agreements to kick in.... (That's an understatement) maybe it will happen now that the uk split from the eu? But wait the parts and toys I am most interested in are made in Germany so I'm never going to get a deal on shipping....

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Postby Will01Capri » Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:34 pm

Brexit unfortunately being taken advantage of!
We have had this happen, we also had some suppliers refuse to send because they cant figure correct paperwork and tariff numbers to apply. We have even resorted to using friends to purchase items for us to their own address and then post personally to us. It's crazy! Postage prices gone up, also customs charges and then royal mail stick a handling charge if not done properly so things are getting more expensive. Even found stuff that usually comes international and then comes thru EU country first now attracts other issues when it eventually comes into UK.
Some parts are now just cheaper to buy in the UK in the short term, but they would have come across international many months ago, so ok at moment, but when that runs dry, we all just be paying more anyway.
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Postby Tiger6 » Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:02 pm

Shootermcgraw wrote:I'm still waiting for this so called free trade agreements to kick in....


Free trade just means trade free from Tariffs, Quotas and other restrictions designed to protect a countries home market. Free trade deals will have no effect on the price of our toys, as they are not subject to these restrictions.

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Postby silversurfer1947 » Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:11 pm

Today, I was looking for a specific item which was only available from Hong Kong. The price was £58,which was very good. The cheapest delivery cost was £58, not very good. The item still remains on their shelves
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Postby Shootermcgraw » Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:26 pm

Tiger6 wrote:
Shootermcgraw wrote:I'm still waiting for this so called free trade agreements to kick in....


Free trade just means trade free from Tariffs, Quotas and other restrictions designed to protect a countries home market. Free trade deals will have no effect on the price of our toys, as they are not subject to these restrictions.



I can definitely agree on part of that.... I think the real cost saver would be in the (TTIP) Agreement. Unfortunately that is off the table for now. :/
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Postby jhamm » Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:28 am

Hi,
i recommend Ali Express....

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Postby Tiger6 » Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:40 am

Tiger6 wrote:
Shootermcgraw wrote:I'm still waiting for this so called free trade agreements to kick in....


Free trade just means trade free from Tariffs, Quotas and other restrictions designed to protect a countries home market. Free trade deals will have no effect on the price of our toys, as they are not subject to these restrictions.


TTIP would not make our toys any cheaper, nor will it reduce shipping costs or the need for customs paperwork, import duties, or VAT/State Sales tax.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatla ... artnership

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Postby Shootermcgraw » Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:42 pm

Tiger6 wrote:
Tiger6 wrote:
Shootermcgraw wrote:I'm still waiting for this so called free trade agreements to kick in....


Free trade just means trade free from Tariffs, Quotas and other restrictions designed to protect a countries home market. Free trade deals will have no effect on the price of our toys, as they are not subject to these restrictions.


TTIP would not make our toys any cheaper, nor will it reduce shipping costs or the need for customs paperwork, import duties, or VAT/State Sales tax.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatla ... artnership
Thank you tiger for clarification on "So called free trade agreements or deals", I was truly being sarcastic about my comment-comments about the costs of products we buy... I could or should have been more specific about my complaints and the differences in shipping, custom, vat, fees and taxes? But none of this have anything to do with free trade agreements. Really I'm not here for a debate, I'm just another disgruntled foreign purchaser....


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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:50 am

"Really I'm not here for a debate"
Says the person that joins in on a debate with the masses :/
I too sometimes use a dotted line after a sarcastic comment, although that should be taken that there is to be a follow up to the original statement, some people can miss the sarcastic meaning. I think we should both start using an eye's raised emoji instead ;) especially as it's hard to know what is sometimes meant within the written word ;)
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Postby Harry Serpent » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:08 am

All the Bitching about Postage from out side the UK, isn’t going to change Anything.
Just don’t buy if you can’t afford it, or pay the price and get on with it. :crazy:
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Postby jarndice » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:32 am

It is my experience in life if you are prepared to roll over after getting a kicking then you will get another kicking, If you stand up and defend your corner if you lose you have at least tried,
Apathy will kill this Country,It will destroy your soul.
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Postby General Jumbo01 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:15 am

We, in this forum, have an international network that we can exploit to help one another, as many of us do already. Let's see what we can do! :thumbup:
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:17 am

I dont have a soul................I have awful exchange rates and a geographic disadvantage...............If ya dont need it, there is no cost, if ya DO need it, there is a cost. Or, go without it & make it yourself.
Down here, there is nothing available............no Forgebear up the road, no Welsh Dragon Models, no helpful and relatively close Continental European suppliers, no Imex's...............nothing. The ones we have access to have nothing.

Think your northern Hemisphere selves quite privileged to have to use your respective first rate world leading currency to pay for a higher shipping rate, that is STILL LESS than anything we can get on this side of the globe, that has to only travel virtually down the street to get to you. :/ :/ :/

GBP/USD/EU $$??...............cry me a river.......................if you think your having a rough time, there is always someone having a worse one.
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