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FIREFLY? WHAT HAVE i GOT HERE?

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:05 am
by HERMAN BIX
g'day folks, I got this upper as part of a "rubbish pile" the other day.
This, an old 27mhz Tiger, and a KV1 for AUD$80.

With this Sherman upper, is it possible as it is to create a New Zealand Firefly in Italy without solving the proverbial 'Rubicks Cube' that is a Sherman variant ?
Im not a Sherman guy(the late General Alpha will be rolling over this !) but as the very first ever model of a tank I had was a Matchbox Firefly, I want to do one out of nostalgia and a Kiwi one if possible.
Its got a real nice metal barrel on it.

Tell me if Im dreaming or not & what will I need to do to get a basic representation of one.
(I get I will need a lower hull !!)

Re: FIREFLY? WHAT HAVE i GOT HERE?

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:29 am
by dgsselkirk
Yep, you are dreaming... :-)

biggest mod will be converting it to a small hatch upper deck which means 3D printed or scratch built front hatches and the proper angle to start, the rear engine grill has to go and replaced with the proper configuration featuring the raised rad cover, fuel caps need repositioning, you will need 3pc transmission cover, the turret is high bustle and although a few and I mean a very few were that the most common is a low bustle turret. both turret hatches are incorrect. You need a split hatch for the commanders cupola and the loaders hatch is a square configuration. Center rear vent gets removed, you need the radio box on the back, and then there are all the small details but hey, lots of guys stick and extra radio box on the back of the turret, add the firefly barrel and POOF! Call it a Firefly... LOL! :haha: :haha: :haha:

Re: FIREFLY? WHAT HAVE i GOT HERE?

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:04 pm
by HERMAN BIX
Now THATS honesty :thumbup:
Appreciate the input mr Selkirk, a much bigger job than I want for what it is.
Although I build as close as possible to what my skill set and time/resources/money allows and accept shortcomings accordingly, it seems even a half assed Firefly is a Tank Too Far.

I’m pretty certain I could not live with ‘poof’ a Firefly( or any other for that matter) so up for sale it shall go,

Thanks again mate, saved me a lot of wasted time.

Re: FIREFLY? WHAT HAVE i GOT HERE?

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:54 pm
by dgsselkirk
Yea, sorry to be the bearer of bad news Herman but yes, the amount of work it takes to convert an HL to a proper Firefly is the whole reason I made the Firefly kits... :D

Re: FIREFLY? WHAT HAVE i GOT HERE?

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:49 pm
by Jarlath
HERMAN BIX wrote:Now THATS honesty :thumbup:
Appreciate the input mr Selkirk, a much bigger job than I want for what it is.
Although I build as close as possible to what my skill set and time/resources/money allows and accept shortcomings accordingly, it seems even a half assed Firefly is a Tank Too Far.

I’m pretty certain I could not live with ‘poof’ a Firefly( or any other for that matter) so up for sale it shall go,

Thanks again mate, saved me a lot of wasted time.
Dean is a pretty knowledgeable person with regards to all things Sherman... Other than the upper hull, you also need to stretch the lower hull for a Firefly (M4A4 chassis). At least for the majority of Fireflies anyways...
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Re: FIREFLY? WHAT HAVE i GOT HERE?

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:53 pm
by Ad Lav
Keep the barrel and flog the other bits!!

Re: FIREFLY? WHAT HAVE i GOT HERE?

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:48 pm
by Exhibitedbrute
Mr bix in having a firefly I can take some measurements and offer up some cheap and achievable suggestions, I also have some spare small hatches that I had printed for mine that I never used to help you along

Re: FIREFLY? WHAT HAVE i GOT HERE?

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:52 pm
by Exhibitedbrute
The engine deck I could also get printed as for the rest I can measure the hull extensions and front angle from mine, I would recommend the purchase of one of deans firefly turrets though just for ease of the build

Re: FIREFLY? WHAT HAVE i GOT HERE?

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:10 pm
by Jofaur86

Re: FIREFLY? WHAT HAVE i GOT HERE?

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:58 pm
by HERMAN BIX
Exhibitedbrute wrote:The engine deck I could also get printed as for the rest I can measure the hull extensions and front angle from mine, I would recommend the purchase of one of deans firefly turrets though just for ease of the build
That’s a very generous offer Mr Brute, could be I do push on with a Sherman build after all.