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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:25 pm

I bought the Futuba rx/tx for my Tamiya Königstiger blitz build. I'm very pleased with it as it was very easy to set up, :) although I had to swap a couple of channels to get steering/throttle functions on the right stick, with gun and turret functions on the left..as per HL/Taigen models. That's the stick orientation I'm used to.Thing is, it all worked right away- No setting up was required. :) ..nor any cursing; and apparently a spare Futuba R204G F-E can be bought (according to the sales pitch) as a spare receiver. Marvellous. However, I'd assumed I could fit a spare receiver into my
Panther G project and allow them to share the same TX. After further thought, it struck me that the Transmitter might have to be bound to the spare receiver- and in so doing, might lose the link it had with the original. After all, these expensive 4-channel radios are not known for the 'model matching' I get with my Spektrum TX. Can any of our more seasoned Tamiya buffs shed some light on this? Cheers. Taigen Heng Long transmitters have in the past been uniquely paired to a specific MFU and its receiver..though that's changing. If the Tamiya/Futuba transmitter is limited to one receiver, in a similar way, then it would be massively overpriced for what it is. What's more, Futuba/Tamiya 4ch setups are difficult to obtain in the UK. :problem:
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Postby tomhugill » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:44 pm

Pretty sure you can bind more than one recover to a transmitter but no the other way round.

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Postby PainlessWolf » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:50 pm

Good afternoon,
This is a question I would like to see some answers on as well. I have a stock Tamiya Tiger 1 kit that will be built and it has all of the Tamiya electronics and they call for a four channel radio. I'd like to know if my new Flysky FS-i6s 10 channel jobbie will work with those older electronics.?..using a new RX of course? That radio supports up to five different vehicles. I built Sassgrunts Tamiya Tiger 1 using an IBU2 but that was a display model that he provided upgraded gearboxes and components for to turn it into an RC version.
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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:58 pm

Honestly I would not waste a minute with the futaba radio specially if you have a programable spectrum or the flysky you mentium, guys.

Dont worry about having extra channels, my radio has 24 channels and I use it with everything. Even with the old stock tamiya electronics.
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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:04 pm

Thanks, Tom. Well, Painless, it occurred to me that if a spanking new Tamiya 4-ch unit (rebranded Futuba) would work with all spare recommended Futuba RXs (R204GF-E 2.4G and R214GF-E 2.4G models) then it could cause mayhem on the Tamiya battlefield. Unless, that is, the receiver is uniquely paired to the specific transmitter. On reflection, though, as expensive and dated looking as the Attack 4YWD is, it just works perfectly with Tamiya tanks...pretty much out of the box (and out of pocket too :haha: ).
I'd certainly recommend it for your Tiger project, Painless. Then again, who wants a collection of Transmitters as large as the Tank collection itself?
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Postby PainlessWolf » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:12 pm

Rad,
Many thanks! For old timers such as myself ( who is surprised on a daily basis by the new electronics and radios ) your statement is a minds ease.
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Postby tomhugill » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:20 pm

I love my 4ywd that came with my js2. It just works, no faffing

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Postby PainlessWolf » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:28 pm

43rd R&R,
Thanks for the updated information! I do want to add some secondary lights, turret MG and convoy light, to my early Tiger and was thinking extra servo channels and esc territory. Another 10 channel RX like the one in the recently completed Late War Tiger 1 would allow me to do those things. It will be another adventure, all of the new builds seem to be. I hear you on the forest of radios that are used with older HL\Taigen tanks. I have roughly a dozen of those 27 mhz and tank specific types in spares. Hobby grade TX and RX is a much needed upgrade for me.
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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:32 pm

tomhugill wrote:I love my 4ywd that came with my js2. It just works, no faffing


Yes, it works... But basic functions.

With a programable radio you can configure it to have momentum (inertia) I mean, you can adjust it as accurate as you want and for examle to make a very heavy tank to take more time until reaching full speed (no jack rabiting, lol) taking more time for fully braking (not like droping a big anchor) having more speed foward than in reverse and a lot of things like that. In my case I love to drive and to feel all the tanks like real tanks, and everyone of them are configured in the radio momory with different specs. (Up to 60 tanks, lol) Is not the same to move a king tiger than a panzer III...

For a newbie the tamiya radio might be ok, but for somebody who already has a decent radio I see no reason to use it.

Tom, you have a 9xr pro, you can do marvels with it.
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Postby tomhugill » Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:25 am

I wouldn't buy one separately as they're hugely overpriced for what they are. But mine came as a Brucie bonus with my js-2 (Japanese) kit. With tamiya or IBU it's great, add a couple of fire buttons (easy with analogue trims) and you're away. Comes with both sticks self centering too which is nice.

I love my 9xr pro don't get me wrong, but there's a nice lightweight simiplicty ton the 4 channel futaba

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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:14 pm

PainlessWolf wrote:43rd R&R,
Thanks for the updated information! I do want to add some secondary lights, turret MG and convoy light, to my early Tiger and was thinking extra servo channels and esc territory. Another 10 channel RX like the one in the recently completed Late War Tiger 1 would allow me to do those things. It will be another adventure, all of the new builds seem to be. I hear you on the forest of radios that are used with older HL\Taigen tanks. I have roughly a dozen of those 27 mhz and tank specific types in spares. Hobby grade TX and RX is a much needed upgrade for me.
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Perfectly understandable perspective, Painless. Although I have only been initiated relatively recently into the Tamiya fraternity, I have come to appreciate their strong points, and the pleasure of building a Tamiya tank. There are, however, desiderata, and you have named a few. Like you, I'd like secondary (or even primary :D ) lights on my models. Then there's smoke, and maybe a servo movable MG. In this respect, Taigen and Heng Long are in the vanguard of model tank enhancements. Tamiya's approach is much more conservative- stuck in the mud you might say. I see, though, that their new Abrams M1A2 full-option model requires a 6-channel Transmitter- not the customary and staid 4-ch model; so maybe this is an indication that the sleeping giant of model tanking is finally waking up to new developments. But maybe not.... :think:
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Postby Max-U52 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:30 pm

I still say the Flysky i10 is the only TX ya need. You can bind 20 different receivers with built in model matching, it's an extremely light weight TX and one of the easiest radios there is for set up and programing. I own a 9X, a 9XR Pro, and an i6 but for me the i10 is simply the best TX you can get, both for price and functionality.
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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:24 pm

Max-U52 wrote:I still say the Flysky i10 is the only TX ya need. You can bind 20 different receivers with built in model matching, it's an extremely light weight TX and one of the easiest radios there is for set up and programing. I own a 9X, a 9XR Pro, and an i6 but for me the i10 is simply the best TX you can get, both for price and functionality.


and it's your i10 currently serving as your magnum opus Hetzer's controller, Gary? I wonder how easy it would be to set it up for Tamiya's proprietary systems? Maybe one of these days you'll put a Tamiya tank together with essential extras...ah..but wait..
after the Hetzer..i imagine gong back to 1/16 might seem like backtracking somewhat (pun intended :D )..a retrograde step.
Building a Tamiya is a richly rewarding experience- albeit a bank balance draining one. The performance later, however, can be something of an anti-climax when compared with models that sport lights, smoke, cameras, and programmable sound at start up! :) The Tamiya is steady, predictable but a little uninspiring. :problem:..but battles well, apparently.
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Postby Max-U52 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:42 pm

Yes, Highlander, the i10 is what controls the Hetzer, as well as my 1/16 Jagdtiger. I personally prefer to have a separate TX for each tank, which is one of the reasons I like the i6 so much, it's cheap enough to get away with a TX for each tank, but for those that want just one TX for multiple tanks I say the i10 can't be beat. With that said, it is true that I have never built a Tamiya tank (and probably never will), but I don't see any problems with using the i10. I'm sure the switches and pots can be assigned the same way you would with a 9X so you can have things like tank start on a switch, instead of all those funky trim/stick combos. It even has a momentary switch in the perfect spot to be used for firing the main gun.

But, that's just my opinion. To each his own, right? I think the main thing is that we keep on Tankin'! :)
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