360 turret rotation

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Postby Topper » Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:46 pm

Hello
I converted my Torro Tiger 1 to a 360 turret rotation today, the rotation motor labours to rotate the turret, on the Taigen Tiger 1 kit I build the upper hull has little wheels in the hull to help with rotation, can I buy these wheels? or is there anything else I can do to help with rotation of the turret?
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Postby jarndice » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:13 pm

Hi, You can buy a Tiger 1 turret base with 3 sets of steel balls to aid the rotation of the turret, well worth the investment.
Try Dave at www.forgebeartanks.com
He may not have it in stock but I wager he knows how to get hold of one for you so talk to him.
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Postby Topper » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:21 pm

Hi
Thanks,I sent Dave an email.

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Postby PainlessWolf » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:59 pm

Hi, Topper,
It's odd because Torro while nearly identical to Taigen, usually has a small lead in detailing and functional features on their respective tanks. Could be a different version of the same tank, Pro vs Metal (or however they label their series now). Anyway, a great Builder on here named Sassgrunt came up with the idea of cutting turret bearing / glide rings out of clear, binder divider sheets. If you do not want to drill for bearings or ring mounts, give those a try.
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Postby Topper » Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:19 pm

Hi
Thanks for your help, have you got a link to the post by Sassgrunt please?

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Postby PainlessWolf » Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:50 pm

Topper,
Sass might see this and answer himself, otherwise, measure the diameter of the inner and outer contact surface on your turret. Get a divider sheet and a protracter with x-acto blade attached and scribe those two circles in the divider. Remove excess material and take the remaining ring and set it on the deck of your tank and remount the turret. Should remove a lot of the friction that you are experiencing there.
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Postby Topper » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:01 am

Thats great thanks!!!

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Postby Jofaur86 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:29 am

PainlessWolf wrote:Topper,
Sass might see this and answer himself, otherwise, measure the diameter of the inner and outer contact surface on your turret. Get a divider sheet and a protracter with x-acto blade attached and :) scribe those two circles in the divider. Remove excess material and take the remaining ring and set it on the deck of your tank and remount the turret. Should remove a lot of the friction that you are experiencing there.
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if I understand correctly, this is the principle used by Tamiya on the Sherman turret??

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Postby PainlessWolf » Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:55 am

Jofaur,
Hello and No. This is something that Sassgrunt came up with to be a cheap and easy fix for binding turrets ( Usually Heng Long ) I've never owned a Tamiya Sherman so cannot say which type of turret rotation aide that they use. Could be ball bearings like the Tiger but I cannot say. Someone here on the Forum will know, I am sure.
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Postby Jofaur86 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:33 am

Thank you, for the answer, it's a kind of adhesive and translucent sheet, at least on the Sherman, have a nice weekend

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Postby Jofaur86 » Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:35 am

Thank you, for the answer, it's a kind of adhesive and translucent sheet, at least on the Sherman, have a nice weekend

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Postby Jimster » Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:40 pm

Not sure if this helps but I upgraded my HL/Taigen Tiger with a metal turret motor and metal ring with built in roller bearings. Very smooth and less slop.
My turret is Taigen and upper hull is HL.
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:31 pm

I don't know about Mr Sassgrunt posting about it, but I did remember Mr wibblywobbly posting similar back in the summer of 2017 :thumbup:

wibblywobbly wrote:I have a few HL tanks and yes, the rings are different sizes.

If you want a slick turret rotation, you could try the tip that Bogeyman gave me. Trot down to the local stationery store and buy some plastic document holders, the slippery clear plastic ones. Cut two turret rings out, glue one to the turret and one to the hull. voila! friction free turret rotation. :thumbup:
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Postby Topper » Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:18 pm

Jimster wrote:Not sure if this helps but I upgraded my HL/Taigen Tiger with a metal turret motor and metal ring with built in roller bearings. Very smooth and less slop.
My turret is Taigen and upper hull is HL.
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Hi
Is your turret 360 rotation? If yes, how did you fix the slip ring to the metal turret ring?
Thanks in advance
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Postby Jimster » Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:42 pm

No, but it is a 360 gear and could be used with very little engineering. My Leopard 2A7 + didn’t have it’s 21 wire slip ring attached to anything.
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Postby Topper » Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:12 pm

Jimster wrote:No, but it is a 360 gear and could be used with very little engineering. My Leopard 2A7 + didn’t have it’s 21 wire slip ring attached to anything.

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Postby sassgrunt » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:58 am

I had actually forgotten about this post until Painless' reminder.

sassgrunt » Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:22 am

Rather than add a styrene ring for the turret to pivot on, I have used a circle-cutter to make rings out of see-through colored notebook dividers. They measure between .005" and .007" thick, and they are 'slippery' enough to allow a good bearing surface. They are awfully bright, though, so cut them just big enough not to show past the edge of the turret. When I've needed a thicker turret bearing, I've used the re-sealable plastic tops from large metal cans. These can run between .025" and .040" thick, and are made of a nylon-type material; so they won't take glue but are pretty slippery as well. -Mike

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