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Postby Coryphodon » Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:07 pm

Hello,
I just noticed that Hooben is issuing a new 'batch' of tank models,
including the German E100 in the 1/16 scale
plus several other models in the larger 1/10 scale.

However, the tank models by Hooben only feature Infrared firing systems.
I was wondering whether they could be retrofitted with an Airsoft firing system.
By the way, and in the first place, has anyone in this forum purchased Hooben tanks?

I am providing here a link for anyone interested;
https://www.hooben-shop.com
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Postby SCHWEREPANZER » Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:48 pm

Did you (collectively, that is) happen to notice the starting price of the E-100? I would guess that the buyer's appeal would be somewhat diminished on this one. :-<

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Postby STHV » Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:51 pm

Avoid them like the plague. I own their Maus, it is by far the lowest quality and most overpriced piece of crap in my collection. Its construction is horrendous as it is held together by nuts glued to brackets on the inside, mine even had its convoy light held on with blu tac. The gearbox was broken on arrival. It was advertised as full metal but huge parts are plastic like the gun mantlet, shot deflectors, fuel drum, headlights (also broken on arrival) and all of the hatches and periscopes. I will have to replace the entire turret due to the front face being completely wrong with a flat bit at the bottom as well as the front and back plates of the hull because they are too small and leave large gaps in the tank.

Now for the really bad stuff. The gun elevation system was designed by a moron, it used a reasonably strong motor/servo with a steel gear that drives another gear made of the softest plastic imaginable and with no limit switch so the first time I tried it out the Steel gear stripped the plastic one bare. The turret traverse was advertised as 360°, it is about 320° as the turret has no slip ring for the wires and has been deliberately limited with micro switches (those would have been nice to have on the elevation drive). On arrival I physically could not open the hull roof to check the internals due to some of the bolts being completely covered in glue. The tank is neither the V2 or Kubinka hybrid and has details from both V1 and V2 spliced together along with being just flat out wrong this is because those idiots just copied a 1/35 scale dragon kit of the Maus, its blatantly obvious because that kit had the exact same broken details like the flat part on the bottom of the turret face. The sound system is horrendous, sounding worse than even the cheapest Heng Long. The FPV system was a lie, I was explicitly told by their customer support that it was 1080p, the camera is 720p and the headset is 480p. The coaxial 75mm has no function at all, no recoil at all. In a promotional video they even showed the coaxial machine was completely absent and the 75mm was had the mg flash bulb in it. I had to ask them to add the mg, which they surprisingly did but they didn't connect it to the elevation.

Now is the even worse part, their customer service. It took a whole 6 months for the tank to arrive with their customer support constantly saying it would be dispatched in about 2 weeks. Once the pile of junk actually arrived and I discovered just how bad it was I immediately left a detailed review on their Facebook page listing everything wrong. Instead of trying to fix the issues they simply said that I must be wrong because other customers were happy, I don't believe that for a second, and only offered to refund me if I returned it undamaged, even though it was broken on arrival they did not offer any replacement parts or anything. So then I asked for a partial refund seeing as it was blatant lies and false advertising. They then just falt said that they would not help me at all unless I took down my review. Needless to say I ignored them and went straight to my bank. After I got a local RC shop to verify that they were indeed lying about just about everything and sending the full email conversations I had with Hooben to my bank they reversed the payment as Hooben never responded to them. So now I have a completey broken but free paperweight that is going to take a huge amount of work to fix

TL:DR Hooben are scammers and the E-100 and all of their other tanks look like more of the same, don't give them a penny. If you really want a Maus or E-100 etc go to Christian Ludwig, he makes great kits for just about everything and can even do custom stuff, I'm using his metal Panther upper hull for my Ausf D project.
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Postby SCHWEREPANZER » Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:38 pm

Not that I was thinking of getting it, but I think you have pretty much, and quite effectively I might add, written a good and accurate kit review. :clap:

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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:05 pm

If you look 'Hooben' up in the search' box, you'll find lots of references to the company and their models. Not all are quite as damning as STHV's. :shh:
The recent Cromwell has a fairly decent hull (alloy) and external detailing. It's less impressive, and very dated on the inside, however. The sound effects are mediocre. :/
One thing that is incontestible: the sky-high prices. :think:
Here's one account of Hooben's Cromwell's pros and cons
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=28871&p=314340&hilit=Hooben+Cromwell#p314340
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Postby jarndice » Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:21 pm

STHV wrote:Avoid them like the plague. I own their Maus, it is by far the lowest quality and most overpriced piece of crap in my collection. Its construction is horrendous as it is held together by nuts glued to brackets on the inside, mine even had its convoy light held on with blu tac. The gearbox was broken on arrival. It was advertised as full metal but huge parts are plastic like the gun mantlet, shot deflectors, fuel drum, headlights (also broken on arrival) and all of the hatches and periscopes. I will have to replace the entire turret due to the front face being completely wrong with a flat bit at the bottom as well as the front and back plates of the hull because they are too small and leave large gaps in the tank.

Now for the really bad stuff. The gun elevation system was designed by a moron, it used a reasonably strong motor/servo with a steel gear that drives another gear made of the softest plastic imaginable and with no limit switch so the first time I tried it out the Steel gear stripped the plastic one bare. The turret traverse was advertised as 360°, it is about 320° as the turret has no slip ring for the wires and has been deliberately limited with micro switches (those would have been nice to have on the elevation drive). On arrival I physically could not open the hull roof to check the internals due to some of the bolts being completely covered in glue. The tank is neither the V2 or Kubinka hybrid and has details from both V1 and V2 spliced together along with being just flat out wrong this is because those idiots just copied a 1/35 scale dragon kit of the Maus, its blatantly obvious because that kit had the exact same broken details like the flat part on the bottom of the turret face. The sound system is horrendous, sounding worse than even the cheapest Heng Long. The FPV system was a lie, I was explicitly told by their customer support that it was 1080p, the camera is 720p and the headset is 480p. The coaxial 75mm has no function at all, no recoil at all. In a promotional video they even showed the coaxial machine was completely absent and the 75mm was had the mg flash bulb in it. I had to ask them to add the mg, which they surprisingly did but they didn't connect it to the elevation.

Now is the even worse part, their customer service. It took a whole 6 months for the tank to arrive with their customer support constantly saying it would be dispatched in about 2 weeks. Once the pile of junk actually arrived and I discovered just how bad it was I immediately left a detailed review on their Facebook page listing everything wrong. Instead of trying to fix the issues they simply said that I must be wrong because other customers were happy, I don't believe that for a second, and only offered to refund me if I returned it undamaged, even though it was broken on arrival they did not offer any replacement parts or anything. So then I asked for a partial refund seeing as it was blatant lies and false advertising. They then just falt said that they would not help me at all unless I took down my review. Needless to say I ignored them and went straight to my bank. After I got a local RC shop to verify that they were indeed lying about just about everything and sending the full email conversations I had with Hooben to my bank they reversed the payment as Hooben never responded to them. So now I have a completey broken but free paperweight that is going to take a huge amount of work to fix

TL:DR Hooben are scammers and the E-100 and all of their other tanks look like more of the same, don't give them a penny. If you really want a Maus or E-100 etc go to Christian Ludwig, he makes great kits for just about everything and can even do custom stuff, I'm using his metal Panther upper hull for my Ausf D project.

Oh I do dislike prevarication, For goodness sake man did you like it ??? :clap: :clap:
This summary alone is a very good reason for being a part of the Forum. :thumbup:
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Postby jhamm » Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:46 pm

STHV wrote:If you really want a Maus or E-100 etc go to Christian Ludwig, he makes great kits for just about everything and can even do custom stuff, I'm using his metal Panther upper hull for my Ausf D project.


Christian Ludwig make only kits no RTR Modell, and believe me these kits need a lot of work!
From Hooben you get a RTR model..because not everyone is able to build a model without instructions.
Hooben delivers medium quality with a tendency towards poor quality - this seems to depend on the day.
One can argue about the purchase price, some find it too expensive, others don't care.
You have to want to afford a Hooben model.
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:49 pm

“You have to want to afford a Hooben model”

That is a very astute observation Mr Jhamm
I would say that if an expectation is set low with the understanding that you could have a less common model if you are prepared to put in a lot of extra work, then go right ahead ! 8O
I have an Elephant that I will convert to a Ferdinand which I expect is going to be a long and frustrating task, but, without the base to begin with the task would be bigger and even more frustrating :eh:
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Postby Xiaoshan_Sailor » Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:13 am

MY GAWD!!!! :haha: :crazy: :thumbup: That pretty much sums it up. :O :O :haha: :haha:

I live less than an hour from their "workshop" - I use quotes since its nothing more than an office/apartment setup - & have known their owner for close to 15 years. Have several tanks, the last being the Hetzer which is not as bad as the Maus but close in terms of problems encountered.

Toy grade early HL quality is what you can expect if you do plan to buy their products. Even the local hobbyists here in China deride their lack of quality & customer service which says a lot.

The only good thing I can say about Hooben is that they do think outside the box when it comes to new subjects. I would be tempted if they do eventually come out with the 1/10 Sd.Kfz. 251 that supposedly has been in the works.
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Postby Xiaoshan_Sailor » Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:17 am

jhamm wrote:You have to want to afford a Hooben model.


Reminds me of the British & Italian sports car fetish I've had all my life: Austin-Healey, MG, Triumph, Fiat.. Guess masochism runs deep in all my hobbies. :haha:
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Postby Rob1970 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:47 am

STHV wrote:Avoid them... *edited for brevity...my Ausf D project.


No no, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel... ;D
I've been eyeing the Hooben Cromwell because... well... it's an Allied tank, and supposedly RTR. But after this story (and some other pretty damning review I might as well scratchbuild (or print) my own. It's hardly going to come out worse than a Hooben it seems.

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Postby stu_the_flat » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:23 pm

Kind of want to buy one now just to see "how bad can it be?!" :)
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Postby Timbo68 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:37 pm

Well, I have their T-55. Not a build for the inexperienced, I’ll allow, but, completed with a bit of effort, it’s now probably my favourite tank, to the dismay of the rest of my collection. Just saying…

And no, I’ve no connection to Hooben!

(I should make the point that my T-55 kit came without MFU - I fitted an HL 6.1s.)
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Postby Xiaoshan_Sailor » Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:14 pm

Rob1970 wrote:I've been eyeing the Hooben Cromwell because... well... it's an Allied tank, and supposedly RTR. But after this story (and some other pretty damning review I might as well scratchbuild (or print) my own. It's hardly going to come out worse than a Hooben it seems.

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Spoke earlier today with Tomas of Warprints & he has kits available now of his new Cromwell. He's offering kits both complete or only as 3DP parts for those who want to supply their own hardware & electronics. Am sure you'll find its the most detailed around. :thumbup:
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Postby stu_the_flat » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:14 am

Is there a link to the Warprints Cromwell? and I used to have an Alfa 166 super. loved it right up the moment it burst into flames for no apparent reason!
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Postby RobW » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:45 am

I've got the Sherman. By the time I've got around to it no doubt someone else will make one.... But also all I'll have left is the lower hull. Main issue is spares as nothing is compatible with either Tamiya or HL standards. With work it'll make a decent base for the Mato cast upper & turret plus (I suspect) new electrics.

I was interested in the 1:10 T34 but given the price and problems I had with the Sherman (Andrew Haya went beyond good to fix some of those) I'll need persuading to put the barge pole away.

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Postby Estnische » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:55 am

stu_the_flat wrote:Kind of want to buy one now just to see "how bad can it be?!" :)


Laughed out loud at that!
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Postby jcarducci » Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:43 am

I actually forgot that I have Hooben's Maus. I got it when they had their 'pre-sale' price and it did take quite a few months to get here.
When I saw it on arrival I was definitely underwhelmed at the paper thin metal they used for the turret and abundance of plastic parts in an "all metal" model. The Phillips screwheads everywhere was a nice feature... not. I recall putting it back in its container and I've not looked at it since.

I have their 1/10 T-34 and haven't yet broken it and I did run it quite a bit in the dirt and cement. I think I tend to tune out the bad issues such as the radio system was missing the receiver in the model- I'm embarrassed to say it took me a while to understand
why the transmitter couldn't bind. I just don't think my pea brain could fathom how a manufacturer could forget that! I ultimately binned
the electronics and swapped it with an IBU2 Pro board driven by a Turnigy 9x system.

I also have their Elefant - still nib as is their T-55.

Wanted their 1/10 E8 Sherman but I'm waiting for either hell to freeze over or Hooben to add rubber tyres to the model...

Jerry

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Postby Herr Dr. Professor » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:22 pm

Haya's folks sold the Hooben Elefant assembled, and I bought one some years ago. I am a gentle cement or carpet runner, and for such short times even a 1700 NiMH works for me (though I tend not to use them). So my Hooben is not seriously challenged (unlike me :D ). I don't think I would take on a Hooben kit myself--although with a Famo and a Puma in the waiting, I have challenge enough. Heck! I am still trying to get a servo to work. :haha:
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