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Postby EAO » Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:58 pm

Hello to all,
As some of you know I've been planning for a Panther G project for some time now, see: https://www.rctankwarfare.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?f=195&t=31674. Things have changed as of late and in my favor (this happens very seldomly)! My bicycle mechanic; a transplanted Brit., called out of the blue to ask if I would sell my bicycle to a Gent who rides all the "Rails to Trails" in the U.S. that he can. My mechanic mentioned to him that he had set my bike up specifically for the Katy Trail here in Missouri. We talked for a while and this Gentleman took my bike, bike carrier, all my riding gear, tools, etc.! It's OK, as my mechanic knew I was riding it very little since being spoiled by my Keiser stationary bike (and air conditioning and heat too). So it all went to North Carolina and will be doing the entire Louis and Clark Trail this Fall.

Since my sports car just got a tune up and full detail, and my tires won't be shot until the end of this year's driving season I'm set there too. There are no firearms on my list of wants either and I'm all set with ammo also. Regarding my collecting of militaria; I have lots of stuff needing to be mounted and displayed and nothing that is really screaming at me to buy it. So why not try something new and a little different?!

Firstly, I must say that regarding large scale RC armor, Armortek is the epitome. I actually like working with metal (wood not so much), and have most of the required tools as I'm always working on one of the ZTRs, the tractor etc. There is a certain lure to the idea of assembling it myself. What I don't have is spare time, as we own our own business free time is very limited. It probably would turn into a half finished project that would languish forever in my shop. I'm a bit of an oddball here as I want to play, but not build RC tanks. Also, the Armortek offerings are just too expensive, and incredibly heavy to boot.

So on to Mark Spencer and Mark-One-Tanks. Ever since getting into RC tanking about 2 years ago, the idea of a 1/6 scale tank has been in the back of my mind. I've done lots of research and contacted quite a few owner's of Mark's tanks to see what they've had to say about them, knowing that the Armortek offerings were probably not going to work for my lifestyle. I've been in contact with Mark for a while now, and just missed the chance to own a very lightly used, full option JP. So on to a Panther, I guess?! It was what I really wanted anyhow! :D

So I pulled the trigger and sent off the 50% deposit and have now commissioned a build, it will be 24 volt with the Benedini sound board. I went with the "full option" package and added the "high detail" package too. Basically, anything added to the hull would be a separate, add on part to get the most realism out of this tank. It will have side skirts, the "ambush" camo I was thinking about, extra road wheels, and the large, last model exhaust pipes if Mark can come up with something he's happy with. After much thought, I'll be forgoing the Zimmerit. I really like the look of it, but on Panthers it can kind of take away from their clean lines IMO. I also find that the later war Zimmerit patterns have a "uglier, hastily" applied look to them that is nowhere as nice as the work done on the Tiger 1's. I also won't have any animated crew members for it either. While I really like 1/16 scale figures, somehow the 1/6 scale figures seem so "wooden" to me?

My Wife has been pretty good about this (so far), as she's happy most of the first payment (Shhhh! :shh:) has come from the sale of my bike and associated gear. As stated in my other post, I've perfected holding my breath and stomping my feet in order to get what I want. I've also played up the "pity me" role very well too. Rammstein has rescheduled for the second time, so I won't be seeing them on my 54th birthday! I loath birthdays, and this was going to be the best one since turning legal drinking age! Oh well, at least they have rescheduled and not cancelled totally! But it has given me a chance to really up the "whoases me" approach. Sound childish? It is and so am I! :/ I've managed to dance around her other questions pretty well (like the final price tag, shipping weight etc. :silent: ). I do fear that upon delivery she may take her vengeance out on me...however, it will be too late by then, right?!? :lolno:

Jimster; if you are reading this, and I do suddenly disappear from this Forum with no explanation (around here it's usually referred to as "he's done gone missing"), do me a favor? Please look for my mortal remains. I'd start in Jeff City and drain or drag the lagoon (turtle food). If I'm not there, it's a sure bet I'm at the base of the cliffs below the cabin in NW Arkansas (look for the turkey vultures). Upon successfully locating me; I bequeath my entire RC collection to you, including the remains of my RC planes (I think that with a little TLC the Fokker D VII would fly again)! If you could also manage to split up a few things and get them over the "pond" to Jussek, Silversurfer1947, and of course Rad, that would truly be great. I owe these three Gent's for past favors granted (I think we all probably owe Rad; anyhow, right?!). :think:

At any rate, Mark is about 6 months out for a completion date. It'll make a very nice Christmas gift to myself. Well, I've blathered on long enough for now! :/ Shhh, here she comes...show no fear, act casual, nothing going on, yup, just getting ready to go to work dear! :shifty: :wtf:

I'm probably doomed!
Cheers,
Eric.
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:23 pm

LOL, good on you, you're going to love it when you get it :thumbup:
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Postby Jarlath » Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:27 pm

My Armortek Panther is sitting in boxes awaiting a time when I have the required amount of spare time to actually assemble it... It was my 40-something present to myself.
Some people buy motorcycles, I bought a small tank :)

Congrats of being able to get into 1/6th scale and somehow appease SHE; who shall not be crossed.
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Postby EAO » Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:29 pm

Thanks Mick,

I knew there was a reason for my holding off on buying another 1/16 scale tank! I've been very impressed with Mark. Our phone call and email conversations have been great. Seems like a top notch guy! I have great confidence in him.

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Postby EAO » Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:32 pm

Jarlath wrote:My Armortek Panther is sitting in boxes awaiting a time when I have the required amount of spare time to actually assemble it... It was my 40-something present to myself.
Some people buy motorcycles, I bought a small tank :)

Congrats of being able to get into 1/6th scale and somehow appease SHE; who shall not be crossed.


Thank you Jarlath,

So you've met my Wife then!

Cheers,
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Postby Marco Peter » Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:11 pm

Congrats, FINALLY 1/6th scale haha!

Little warning: You can never move back to smaller...
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Postby Jimster » Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:29 pm

Wow! I’m jealous but too old to handle a 1/6 scale beast. Great choice on the electronics. Can’t wait to see some amazing upcoming photos and video.
Be very careful my friend. So many places to hide remains in your neck of the woods but I’ll keep an eye on things for you. :think:
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Postby jarndice » Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:58 pm

I have always aspired to owning a Mark one Tiger 1 but the space not the ire of my Lady is the non starter as far as I am concerned, at least the large scale r/c aircraft that I fly and build can by dint of removing the mainplane/s be easily stored.
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Postby jee » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:01 pm

Congratulations, to be honest it sounds that your wife knows enough but choose to let you do your thing. Of course that will come with a price some day :D
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:31 pm

I want a 1/6th firefly even more now :(
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Postby Herr Dr. Professor » Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:14 pm

"24 volt with the Benedini sound board [...] 'full option' package and added the 'high detail' package [...] side skirts, 'ambush' camo...extra road wheels, and the large, last model exhaust pipes..."

Yes! :thumbup: If you are going to splurge, then splurg good! :clap: ...no buyer's remorse nor lookin' back: ENJOY! ENJOY! ENJOY!

"I'll be forgoing the Zimmerit. [...] ...the later war Zimmerit patterns have a "uglier, hastily" applied look." I do not know about Panther production specifically, but I believe Zimmerit was discontinued toward the end of the war in Germany's haste to forestall impending defeat. Of course, I cannot remember where I read that this was so. Did I say "I cannot remember?" I forgot if I said that.
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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:49 pm

:D :clap: :clap: This will be one not to be missed, Eric. :wave: Do bear in mind the wiliness traditionally associated with the fair sex, old chap. :shh: (not very PC stereotyping, I'll admit- but feel it has some relationship with reality...)
At some point in the future, you may need to grant her any number of wee excesses, or caprices, amounting to some form of expensive self-indulgence. :haha: Go with it!!
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Postby Jimster » Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:06 pm

I’ll second that with a toast! What was it Winston Churchill said? “ A good woman is a good woman, but a good cigar is a smoke.” Maybe I didn’t quite get that right but the cigar reference was for Eric. Cheers for the new Panther. 8)
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Postby jarndice » Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:26 pm

Jimster wrote:I’ll second that with a toast! What was it Winston Churchill said? “ A good woman is a good woman, but a good cigar is a smoke.” Maybe I didn’t quite get that right but the cigar reference was for Eric. Cheers for the new Panther. 8)
Perhaps a better quote is when he was addressed by a Lady who said "Mr Churchill you are drunk !!!
Indeed I am Maam but tomorrow I will be sober but you alas will still be ugly :clap:
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Postby Gillaspy2005 » Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:12 pm

jarndice wrote:
Jimster wrote:I’ll second that with a toast! What was it Winston Churchill said? “ A good woman is a good woman, but a good cigar is a smoke.” Maybe I didn’t quite get that right but the cigar reference was for Eric. Cheers for the new Panther. 8)
Perhaps a better quote is when he was addressed by a Lady who said "Mr Churchill you are drunk !!!
Indeed I am Maam but tomorrow I will be sober but you alas will still be ugly :clap:
My personal favourite

Lady astor: "Winston, if I were your wife I'd put poison in your coffee."

Winston Churchill: "Nancy, if I were your husband I'd drink it

He had some wit for sure.


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Postby EAO » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:30 pm

Still here guys, no "dirt nap" just yet! Been busy doing my chores so I could go to the cabin and relax...um I mean do more chores (just in case Jess reads this)! :lolno:

Jim,
Thank you for watching my back, you may make out pretty good in a case of my untimely demise! You are right about all the dumping spots for bodies. The forest's are thick and dense, and the "hollers" are deep and dark! It also struck me that I do own a tractor with a backhoe and Jess does know how to use it! I also own a wood chipper!!! 8O So potentially I could become chum! What horrors await me?! :think: Oh, by the way the quote "And a women is only a women, but a good cigar is a smoke" comes from Rudyard Kipling's poem "The Betrothed". A great little verse from 1922, and quite humorous too! Got to love Sir Winston Churchill! It has been estimated that he smoked 3,000 cigars a year! I feel ashamed to say it, but the American National Winston Churchill Museum is just about 30 minutes away in Fulton, MO. It was here that he gave what became know as the "Iron Curtain" speech in 1946. It's also the home of the Church of St. Mary the Virgin, Aldermanbury. Transported stone by stone from London to Fulton in 1966 and reassembled perfectly. In over 13 years of living in MO, I have yet to visit this historic place...shame on me! I will have to remedy this! Churchill was the epitome of the Brits. "stiff upper lip" character (among others). A rare breed of man, that today is sorely lacking...we could use a few like this!

Mick and Sir Jarndice,
I must admit that this will probably be a one time thing for me. I'm not sure that I could get away with spending this amount of money more then once! So choosing a tank is a tough thing to do! I too love the Tiger's just for what they represent. The JP however, is so damn sexy too, but having an actual turret is more fun. I'm not a fan of Sherman's, but I do love the Firefly's and "Easy Eights". But a good Panther will fill the bill I think. I do understand about RC plane storage though. Mine were all park fliers with a relatively small wingspan of around 36 inches. I usually had half a fuselage on the workbench, the other half in the car, a wing in a closet, and various bits and pieces in the garage or the resultant debris left at the field! :/ :{ I'm lucky that a lot of things just kind of fell together for this endeavor. I already have a state of the art 24 volt charger, the vehicle to haul this beast in, ramps for loading and unloading, lots of space for playing with my toy, and probably most important as Sir J. noted, the space to store it.

Jee and 43rdRR,
Yeah after nearly 32 years together we know each other very well. I don't think for a moment that I'm really pulling anything over on her! She is very smart, resourceful, and crafty too! My Grandfather always said "Marry a smart, hardworking women, and you can do less"! :haha: She does get her own toys at times too. About 4 years ago she got herself a swim spa/hot tub and I in turn bought a NIB preban Polytech AK47 made in 1988. I was happy and so was she, even though her spa cost nearly 10 times as much! She has also followed innocently along while I was taking one of our nearly new, hardly broken in cars in for a oil change. Next thing I know, we're heading home in a brand new one and waving good bye to the perfectly good old one! She's done this twice!!! So I guess all is fair?!

Our good Herr Dr.,
I always believed that if you're going to do something, you might as well do it right the first time. I always preferred to wait until I had the extra funds for something, rather then jumping in and getting a less satisfying item that will cost more to have upgraded in the end. You are right about the zimmerit, it seems it was discontinued right around the time of this specific Panther model that I have had in my mind. My omitting it from this tank should make it more historically accurate, however nothing I've ever done has been 100% accurate anyway. Just enough of a personal touch to call my own.

Oh, oh! I just saw the security camera outside pivot around, she's checking in on me! I'm not out there sweating away! I knew there were drawbacks with these things! Time to start looking busy!

Cheers,
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Postby BarryC » Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:35 pm

Son of a gun-ner wrote:I want a 1/6th firefly even more now :(


I seriously considered using my 1/6 Dragon Sherman for such a conversion and may still but converting it from a large hatch to a small appears very daunting!! 8O

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Postby Jimster » Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:16 pm

Wow, Barry! Ya’ll grow ‘em big down South. You and Eric have me thinking about how to raise money for a 1/6 Tiger. I already have a trailer and I have a 2” receiver hitch on my Jeep. Nope nope nope. I’ve gotta get those thoughts out of my head!
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:14 am

BarryC wrote:
Son of a gun-ner wrote:I want a 1/6th firefly even more now :(


I seriously considered using my 1/6 Dragon Sherman for such a conversion and may still but converting it from a large hatch to a small appears very daunting!! 8O

Barry

Seriously, YOU, finding it daunting 8O
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:16 am

Jimster wrote:Wow, Barry! Ya’ll grow ‘em big down South. You and Eric have me thinking about how to raise money for a 1/6 Tiger. I already have a trailer and I have a 2” receiver hitch on my Jeep. Nope nope nope. I’ve gotta get those thoughts out of my head!

You could build it exactly the same as your 1/16th early, then it'll be a mini me of the 1/6th one :D
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