1/6 1943 Stuart M5

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Postby Tech-Com » Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:49 am

I took lots of measurements from real photographs and designed them as full scale tracks.I then reduced the scale. I had to guess on the text I could only make out a few digits from the photograhes and most of the photos I saw had the forging text rusted away.

I may see if I can cnc a mold, curious how detailed I can machine the forging codes.

Here is my design based on real photos compared to Popzoltan's thingiverse design.

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Postby Tech-Com » Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:06 am

PainlessWolf you asked if Popzoltan's tracks from thingiverse would fit? The designer (Popzoltan) made them specifically for the 1/6th stuart. I'm not going to print his out since I wanted to make my own, but I did load them in 3D to see if they fit, and they appear to be a very nice fit.

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Postby Tech-Com » Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:20 pm

Unfortunately I discovered a problem with the RC version of the stuart that makes installing popzoltan's tracks impossible without additional modification. PainlessWolf has made modifications to his return rollers, but I'd have to know the exact dimensions to know if they can work with Popzoltan's version.

It would clearly collide with how the stock RC version is designed unless these rollers are modified.

Notice the bottom purple shoe is inside the shaft of the return roller, this area of the shaft would have to be modified to clear it.

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Postby PainlessWolf » Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:25 pm

Good morning,
You have to reduce those roller mounts to be sure. The tracks I am currently using are the one piece nylon\metal reinforced one piece tracks from the static 1/6 Stuart. The horns on the end track connectors now clear my return roller shafts nicely so any cast or printed accurate track will do so as well. In the Steinbrunn book, he recreated the actual mount type with the indent in brass. Lacking a machine shop, I went my way and it works
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Postby Aljones34 » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:51 pm

As always great information to look over.

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Postby PainlessWolf » Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:59 pm

Good afternoon,
Aljones, Thanks! I'm hoping that between these two 3d Printer fellows, that an affordable set of Link Tracks will be in the offing.
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Postby Max-U52 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:22 pm

I'm still trying to figure out how I can get enough range on my hetzer to drive it out there to Colorado and pepper that puppy with paintballs. @)

And there's an interesting expression, pepper that puppy with paintballs. Seems to just roll right off the tongue. @) :haha: :haha: 8)
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Postby PainlessWolf » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:40 pm

Good morning,
Enjoy that Hetzer, sir. It does roll right off the tongue! Sort of like "Pour Powder, Place Wad, Place Ball, Ram, Cap, Fire!"
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Postby Tech-Com » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:18 pm

Painlesswolf, would you be able to provide measurements off your corrected barrel so I can turn a new one for mine?

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Postby PainlessWolf » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:38 pm

Good afternoon,
Here you go in Standard Measurements:

Complete Length: 8" (Barrel and Sleeve assembled)

Barrel Sleeve Length: 2.25"
Outer Diameter: .63"
Inner Diameter: .50"

Barrel Length (including inner brass for servo attachment: 8.63") ( Exterior Length from Sleeve Insert: 5.75" )
Outer Diameter from Sleeve insert: .44" Tapers to .38" at the muzzle which has a slight flare to it
Bore Diameter: .25"

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Postby Tech-Com » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:30 am

Does this look right. I only need the measurements from the mantle.

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Postby PainlessWolf » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:31 am

Good evening,
Yes. Those measurements and the general barrel shape are spot on.
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Postby PainlessWolf » Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:00 am

Good afternoon,
Since new tracks are in the works, some one piece ( with no glued on washers ) track return rollers seem appropriate as well. Here are the roller measurements pics.
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Postby popzoltan » Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:08 am

Hy Guys!
I see that you are experimenting with the tracks what i have designed! That's awesome and really worms my heart!
My design was updated last week for better fitment and easy assembly with M3x20 screws for more scale look.
My design was made after the 21 century static Stuart model so the fitment on the stock drive wheel should be ok. The return wheel problem was well known by me ... but it should be anyhow modified for the scale look.
Also working on a scale looking and working idler assembly...and testing one existing design (thingiverse) of the idler assembly.
All the best!

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Postby PainlessWolf » Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:39 am

Good afternoon!
Thanks for the look in! New parts to fit this elder 1/6 design are always desired.
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:41 pm

C’mon Mr Wolf, feed the backs mate!!
What’s doin with this project ?
Ya can’t leave us milling around like ‘Browns Cows ‘ with no action :haha:
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Postby PainlessWolf » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:03 am

Herman!
Hello! This Build always gets shelved in between 1/16 armor. I have a new set of working return rollers to install on it. I am now scraping up the 400.00 to buy a working set of tracks. ( The Plastic and Whatever tracks it is currently with are kind of tight for the stock boxes and running gear that I have modded ) Never fear tho'. It will be completed. Along with the towed arty piece I have for it, it will likely be the only 1/6 scale tank that I build.
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Postby HERMAN BIX » Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:31 am

Phew !! glad you've still got the juice for it and not pushed it to the outhouse in the snow !
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Postby Will01Capri » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:13 pm

very cool
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Postby Will01Capri » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:14 pm

popzoltan wrote:Hy Guys!
I see that you are experimenting with the tracks what i have designed! That's awesome and really worms my heart!
My design was updated last week for better fitment and easy assembly with M3x20 screws for more scale look.
My design was made after the 21 century static Stuart model so the fitment on the stock drive wheel should be ok. The return wheel problem was well known by me ... but it should be anyhow modified for the scale look.
Also working on a scale looking and working idler assembly...and testing one existing design (thingiverse) of the idler assembly.
All the best!



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