Trying to decide is driving me mad.

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Postby Basin79 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:53 pm

So I decided I wanted a "proper" rc tank. Little did I know just how insanely difficult that decision would be.

I keep going back and fourth to Forgebear, then over to youtube, then back.

I've gone from wanting a Tiger. Then it was between a Tiger and a Leopard. Now it's a Tiger, King Tiger, Jagdtiger, Panzer IV winter camo with the wide winter tracks and the much more modern Leopard.

Tanks are either Taigen or Torro and IR.

I have read in here that the Panzer IV suspension isn't particularly good so that put a dampener on that a little which is a shame as the actual tank looks incredible.

The Tiger is just an icon and again from reading on here seems to be the tank that many start with.

The King Tiger looks immense, the turret wobble less so.

Jagdtiger is just a behemoth. It looks absolutely incredible and with the sheer size of it and all of the space it has both on and around it would let me buy/make loads of bits of decor to make it "mine".

Now the Leopard surprised me with it being modern and all. But it looks absolutely amazing and having seen it running in youtube videos runs amazing. To be honest I think it's the suspension that's got me hooked.

I'll add I'm purchasing a RTR tank so I don't have to mess around. Absolute authentic paintwork, decals, or deco isn't important to me. Well it isn't yet. I'm just after a tank that looks great and runs great.

I appreciate this is a personal decision but any help or info on the above tanks that might help me narrow down my list would be greatly appreciated.

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Postby midlife306 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:57 pm

Coins do the trick for me, just don’t cheat!!!
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Postby Jarlath » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:31 pm

My favorite tank is the PZ IV. But I would not recommend it in 1/16 RC tanks due to the horrible suspension... Great for hardwood/short carpet/ashphalt/concrete... Or pretty much anything when going forwards... Backwards it likes to eat/bend suspension springs, especially in grass...

If you are plunking down decent coin, get something with a torsion bar suspension (Taigen metal lowers, etc... PZ-III, Tiger/KT/Panther/KV-1/etc...) You'll never look back.
IMHO for looks not including my favorite looking... PZ III, King Tiger, KV-1/2, Panther, Leo2.
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Postby Basin79 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:45 pm

Jarlath wrote:My favorite tank is the PZ IV. But I would not recommend it in 1/16 RC tanks due to the horrible suspension... Great for hardwood/short carpet/ashphalt/concrete... Or pretty much anything when going forwards... Backwards it likes to eat/bend suspension springs, especially in grass...

If you are plunking down decent coin, get something with a torsion bar suspension (Taigen metal lowers, etc... PZ-III, Tiger/KT/Panther/KV-1/etc...) You'll never look back.
IMHO for looks not including my favorite looking... PZ III, King Tiger, KV-1/2, Panther, Leo2.


Cheers. So that's the Panzer IV gone from the list.

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If it was between 2 I would as the coin always let's you know what you really want.

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Postby RenoirLV » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:48 pm

Jarlath wrote:get something with a torsion bar suspension (Taigen metal lowers, etc... PZ-III, Tiger/KT/Panther/KV-1/etc...) You'll never look back.


Well you might. Although that torsion bar suspension is excellent you may end up with a damaged idler setup. The tensioner there can be disformed and the idlers would skew inwards. Then it’s a no go tank. It does however take some time on grass and sand. And some snow too. I understand this is the only problem with that lower hull. I just made a full replacement for my Tiger 1. Saw that as the best option.


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Postby midlife306 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:51 pm

Simples,
WW2 or not
Then go from there lol
I’d get the Jagdtiger myself lol


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Postby Basin79 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:56 pm

midlife306 wrote:Simples,
WW2 or not
Then go from there lol
I’d get the Jagdtiger myself lol


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To be honest I do think I should shelve the Leopard. Beautiful tank but being modern it does lack character in favour of out and out perfection.

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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:58 pm

The TaigenTorro (metal edn.) T34/85 looks good, runs well, and has a neat interior, with a quick release for access to the interior. It's one of best presented RTR tanks out there, I think, so long as it's the upmarket model. :thumbup:
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Postby midlife306 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:03 pm

43rdRecceReg wrote:The TaigenTorro (metal edn.) T34/85 looks good, runs well, and has a neat interior, with a quick release for access to the interior. It's one of best presented RTR tanks out there, I think, so long as it's the upmarket model. :thumbup:
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:09 pm

When purchasing these tanks. A lot of it is luck of the draw. Because it all depends whether it was the 8 or 12 year old that assembles your tank :thumbup:

Some people have had problems with exactly the same model that others have had no problems with.

And for my money, even though it came unpainted, and without any control electronics, the Taigen M4A3 76 is an excellent trouble free runner :thumbup:

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Postby Basin79 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:11 pm

43rdRecceReg wrote:The TaigenTorro (metal edn.) T34/85 looks good, runs well, and has a neat interior, with a quick release for access to the interior. It's one of best presented RTR tanks out there, I think, so long as it's the upmarket model. :thumbup:
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Not a fan of that particular model sadly. I have read good things about it. Thanks.

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43rdRecceReg wrote:The TaigenTorro (metal edn.) T34/85 looks good, runs well, and has a neat interior, with a quick release for access to the interior. It's one of best presented RTR tanks out there, I think, so long as it's the upmarket model. :thumbup:
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They can't be shipped. With the massive barrel they look quite smart too.

I'm either going for a Tiger or Jagdtiger. I think..........

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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:31 pm

Basin79 wrote:
43rdRecceReg wrote:The TaigenTorro (metal edn.) T34/85 looks good, runs well, and has a neat interior, with a quick release for access to the interior. It's one of best presented RTR tanks out there, I think, so long as it's the upmarket model. :thumbup:
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Not a fan of that particular model sadly. I have read good things about it. Thanks.

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43rdRecceReg wrote:The TaigenTorro (metal edn.) T34/85 looks good, runs well, and has a neat interior, with a quick release for access to the interior. It's one of best presented RTR tanks out there, I think, so long as it's the upmarket model. :thumbup:
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They can't be shipped. With the massive barrel they look quite smart too.

I'm either going for a Tiger or Jagdtiger. I think..........


My only advice is to not to get any Jagdsomething as first tank. Not being able to move the turret kills a big part of the fun.

Enjoy the new hobby!
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Postby General Jumbo01 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:57 pm

Rad_Schuhart wrote:
Basin79 wrote:
43rdRecceReg wrote:The TaigenTorro (metal edn.) T34/85 looks good, runs well, and has a neat interior, with a quick release for access to the interior. It's one of best presented RTR tanks out there, I think, so long as it's the upmarket model. :thumbup:
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Not a fan of that particular model sadly. I have read good things about it. Thanks.

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43rdRecceReg wrote:The TaigenTorro (metal edn.) T34/85 looks good, runs well, and has a neat interior, with a quick release for access to the interior. It's one of best presented RTR tanks out there, I think, so long as it's the upmarket model. :thumbup:
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They can't be shipped. With the massive barrel they look quite smart too.

I'm either going for a Tiger or Jagdtiger. I think..........


My only advice is to not to get any Jagdsomething as first tank. Not being able to move the turret kills a big part of the fun.

Enjoy the new hobby!


Both the KT and the JS2 look superb when firing their recoiling and flashing guns. The KTs wobbly turret can be fixed without major surgery, simply shim the turret ring and barrel elevation mechanism. Their sheer size also gives you plenty of internal space for any future mods. Same can be said for the Leopard 2 and Chally 2.

Just take the plunge. Within 24 months you'll own them all!
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Postby Basin79 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:15 pm

Thank you for the replies. Unpainted or not RTR aren't for me. I have zero patience nor talent for things like that.

Good point about the turret. I was imagining me driving straight forward and over some obstacles. Didn't think of the actual fun element nor the opportunity to take pics and play around with set ups. But with that typed I'm sure I could still have fun the the tank hunter.

The King and IS-2 do look great tanks but truth be told I do prefer the actual design of the Tiger. But seeing a King thundering forward would look phenomenal.

At £400-£500+ for a tank there's absolutely no way I'll have them all in 2 years. At a push I might be able to buy 1 more later down the line. If it was just the case of deciding what tank I wanted first this wouldn't be much of a problem. It's the fact this might be my only or maybe 2 tanks that's hammering me.

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Postby General Jumbo01 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:24 pm

Then...

I'd suggest the Heng Long Tiger, ver 6 for around £120 ish. It does all you want and very well, fires BB but also has Tamiya compatible IR as standard, has the correct sound file and drives superbly. Make this your first tank then play and learn at the same time for your next one. Up to you though ;)
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Postby Jarlath » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:26 pm

I started with one... And bought a 1/6 scale to try and stave off my addiction... Did not work... Sigh...
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Postby Jimster » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:27 pm

Get a Taigen Tiger 1 early version. Drive the hell out of it and see how much fun you can squeeze out of her and go from there. Then you can decide which detail parts you want to add or replace, which aftermarket electronics and transmitter/radio you want. Some people drive them about like race cars, some folks enjoy participial IR battles. Some people like to shoot stuff with the air soft gun. Folks like me just enjoy backyard maneuvers, realistic tank driving and great sound effects. I like my Leopard very much but it just sits (after spending well over a grand on it). My main enjoyment is in WW2 German armor.
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Postby Basin79 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:19 pm

Heng Long I decided against early doors. The fact a tank with a turret can't spin that turret 360 seems ridiculous to me. Also I have it in my head that's it's buy cheap, buy twice. I'm not stating that Heng Long are "cheap" as I've had zero experience with them but they're a lot cheaper than Torro and Taigen. Although they're both a cheaper than the all Mato tanks that I've read are awful.

The early Tiger was the model I saw that blew me away. Sadly Forgebear is out of stock. If he had stock I still think I'd be going daft trying to decide between that and the Jagdtiger. With all the uncertainty I'm sure I'll be absolutely blown away when I finally unbox what every model I go for.

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Postby Max-U52 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:23 pm

It looks like you've made up your mind that you want a Tiger, so I say get the Taigen from Forgebear. Stay away from the Heng Long, from what I've read here you won't like it, since it has no barrel recoil or muzzle flash. Also, even the plastic version of the Taigen Tiger comes with torsion bar suspension and metal suspensions arms. This is my first Taigen Tiger (circa 2013) and since this video was taken she's gotten her Asp board, airsoft barrel recoil and an FPV system. You'll find tons of videos of the Tiger, the King Tiger, the Jagdtiger and all the rest at my you tube channel.

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And here's some more Big Cats, this time including a couple Panthers.

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The second video even has the cool Lita Ford sound track. Woohoo! @) @) 8)
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Postby Basin79 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:25 pm

Max-U52 wrote:It looks like you've made up your mind that you want a Tiger, so I say get the Taigen from Forgebear. Stay away from the Heng Long, from what I've read here you won't like it, since it has no barrel recoil or muzzle flash. Also, even the plastic version of the Taigen Tiger comes with torsion bar suspension and metal suspensions arms. This is my first Taigen Tiger (circa 2013) and since this video was taken she's gotten her Asp board, airsoft barrel recoil and an FPV system. You'll find tons of videos of the Tiger, the King Tiger, the Jagdtiger and all the rest at my you tube channel.

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And here's some more Big Cats, this time including a couple Panthers.

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The second video even has the cool Lita Ford sound track. Woohoo! @) @) 8)


Cheers ears. I'll definitely take at look.

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