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Postby silversurfer1947 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:24 pm

I'm looking at something on Aliexpress. There is the option of having it shipped from Germany so I am wondering, does this mean it avoids the attention of HM Customs and saves me the possibility of getting hit with the VAT?
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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:38 pm

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussio ... from-china
There's a illuminating discussion here on ordering from AliExpress, Richard. Technically, if an item is being shipped from Germany, you will already have paid VAT on it there, I guess. Sounds a bit odd, though. How can they swing that?
I've had Futubas sent from Hong Kong and not paid a bean on them. Some vendors mark the items as 'gifts' and understate their value. It's a common practice, and one we- as upright citizens- are expected to frown upon :lolno:
(not..). I've had Royal Mail, Customs, and Uncle Thomas Cobley on my back demanding a cut from me for packages from the US. A BIG cut.. @)
Maybe I'll try Aliexpress. The Tax Raptors seem to be looking West, not East... :shh: :D
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Postby bikerdude » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:02 pm

Not sure about AliExpress, but I've ordered a few things from a website called 'Lightinthebox'. You order from China, and at checkout you can choose to pay 'customs insurance' which is only a small amount. Twice I opted not to pay the insurance, the packages came direct from china and I had to pay around £3 customs, plus RM's ridiculous 'handling' charge or something like £10.
The other times I paid the insurance, the items arrived in the same timescale, still from China (confirmed by watching the tracking), with Chinese writing on some of the labels, but also some German, and no customs/handling charges. Seems if you pay the insurance they send from China to a depot in Germany, stick some new labels on it and send it on to you.

I assume if they can do it, that other companies will also have a similar setup.

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Postby wibblywobbly » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:35 pm

No VAT or excise duty is payable on goods that are imported from other EU countries, but I have ordered plenty of stuff from China and never been asked for anything, except once. That was about ten years ago and was an RC helicopter worth about £600, so I got stung big time. The problem was really DHL, they report imports and send an invoice for the duty etc. Other postal services seem to be ok.

Anything under £20, or a gift is duty free as I recall, hence why the Chinese undervalue the goods. It's a question of are the goods 'worth' what you are paying, or is the value what the materials cost to make, which is a fraction of the retail price?
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Postby Max-U52 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:04 pm

Okay, I just got the whole Uncle Bob thing sorted out, so who the hell is Uncle Thomas? You boys sure have a lot of uncles. 8)
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:10 pm

Max-U52 wrote:Okay, I just got the whole Uncle Bob thing sorted out, so who the hell is Uncle Thomas? You boys sure have a lot of uncles. 8)

Especially when the full saying is, "Bob's your uncle, Charlie's your aunt" :haha:

"Uncle Tom Cobley and all" is a way of saying everyone.

Edit: well, I grew up with Charlie's your aunt added to Bob's your uncle, so maybe my family was telling me something :think:
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Postby Max-U52 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:25 pm

Does that mean Bob is gay?
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:27 pm

Max-U52 wrote:Does that mean Bob is gay?

No, but it may mean my uncle Charlie was a cross dresser :haha:
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Postby jarndice » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:28 pm

Gary, There is a song from the West Country of England called "Widdecombe Fair" it is a sing a long song often sung at summer parties when drink (Preferably a strong cider) is served,
In the song is a list of names which includes Uncle Tom Cobley,
For reasons that escape me he is often quoted in relation to any conversation which includes a long list of characters,
His name is usually followed by "And all".
Shaun.

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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:44 pm

Sorry for the confusion Gary, at 59 I've just found out that what a family member added about aunt Charlie wasn't part of the saying :{

So, Bob's your uncle is "there it is, all done"
And Uncle Tom Cobley and all is basically "everyone"

Just ignore my ramblings about aunty Charlie :{

Edit: I need to change my prescription. . . .
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Postby midlife306 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:25 pm

Well I need to change my prescription because my Grandma used to use either Charlie or Fanny’s you’re aunt.

Gary, a fanny is something completely different this side of the pond lol
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Postby silversurfer1947 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:05 pm

I think it was Winston Churchill who said that the United Kingdom and the United States were two countries separated by a common language.
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:12 pm

silversurfer1947 wrote:I think it was Winston Churchill who said that the United Kingdom and the United States were two countries separated by a common language.

He probably did, glad he was being diplomatic, I would say they're just illiterate over there :D runs and hides

Thanks Wayne, maybe I'm not so crazy after all. . . .
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Postby Marco Peter » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:57 pm

Everytime I check this thread I'm hoping for a compilation of 'Best Buys' on ALiexpress, for our hobby haha!
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Postby Son of a gun-ner » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:01 pm

Marco Peter wrote:Everytime I check this thread I'm hoping for a compilation of 'Best Buys' on ALiexpress, for our hobby haha!

We await your research and findings with gleeful anticipation :D
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Postby 971wright » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:11 pm

Hi If you have joint names on paypal you and the boss , customs duty only kicks in at £40 you both get allowed £20. Unfortunately the American postal laws which have very big penalties means they can not lie when posting something from the states so they cant say something is cheaper than it is in fact they have to over estimate price just in case. I had a Tamiya turret given to me I just had to send postage , still had to pay duty this side of the pond. As for stuff from China never had a problem with customs .

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Postby Max-U52 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:05 am

silversurfer1947 wrote:I think it was Winston Churchill who said that the United Kingdom and the United States were two countries separated by a common language.


Actually, George Bernard Shaw is credited with that quote. I first heard it when George C. Scott, playing George S. Patton, quoted George B. Shaw at a Ladies event during the war. Too many Georges in that sentence!! 8)
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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:01 am

I did literally a coumple of hunders of orders at aliexpress. I buy almost everything from there, and only once had problems with customs.

They always lie in the customs declaration. no matter how expensive is what I buy, they always declare a value under 20 with free shipping, and as a gift or commercial sample.

The bigger parcels always go through NL post. So it goes from china to holland, and they put another sticker on the parcels.

Wathever you do, never order with DHL or EMS shipping.
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Postby Marco Peter » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:49 am

Son of a gun-ner wrote:
Marco Peter wrote:Everytime I check this thread I'm hoping for a compilation of 'Best Buys' on ALiexpress, for our hobby haha!

We await your research and findings with gleeful anticipation :D


Here ya go haha!
https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/2018-Nie ... 0.0.RZkknC
Cool Tiger Fibel T-shirt
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Postby 43rdRecceReg » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:14 pm

Rad_Schuhart wrote:I did literally a coumple of hunders of orders at aliexpress. I buy almost everything from there, and only once had problems with customs.

They always lie in the customs declaration. no matter how expensive is what I buy, they always declare a value under 20 with free shipping, and as a gift or commercial sample.

The bigger parcels always go through NL post. So it goes from china to holland, and they put another sticker on the parcels.

Wathever you do, never order with DHL or EMS shipping.


:silent: :shh: :shh: :shh: to misquote one of out famous Wartime posters, Rad: "Careless talk costs livres.." (should be 'lives'..). :lolno: Much of what we write here ends up directly on Google, 8O so don't tell the revenue men all about our little evasions... :haha:
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