British-built Panthers and their fate

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British-built Panthers and their fate

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Mark Felton's videos are always articulate, impressively researched, and often contain rarely seen stills and film clips. This video on the Panthers, built post-War at the behest of the British, by R.E.M.E (Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers- for those unfamiliar with the unit) continues this worthy tradition. I guess, we all know something now about the British-built Heikendorf Panther, and the scandal surrounding its confiscation- but I didn't know, for instance, that some of these Brit-Panthers were used to test the hitting power of the prototype the mechanical monster, the A38 'Tortoise'. This is one tidbit among quite a few interesting details you'll find in the film. Do give it a go...
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43rdRR,

You are quite right about Mr. Felton's videos. This is one that I haven't seen and find it very interesting due to my obsessive love of all things Panther related!

Thanks for sharing! :wave: :thumbup: :clap:

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Thanks, Eric!. Is there such a condition as Pantherphilia? :think: Perhaps you would make a great case study for budding Freudians and Jungians. :D I became a sleepless fidget when sourcing parts from my Tamiya Pz IV project (built entirely from spares and a few generous donations). Perhaps that was Panzeritis. :think:

Given that the 'Festive Season' is looming large, with the attendant self-indulgence, that needs no excuse- you could treat yourself to this for Christmas:
https://tankmuseumshop.org/products/pan ... a898&_ss=r :thumbup:
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43rdRR,

Both of those conditions sound like rather serious afflictions! :wtf: :D The Panther manual would make a very nice Christmas gift to myself,
given that I don't think I'll see my Panther from Mark until well into the new year. Oh well, good things usually do come to those who wait. :lolno:

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I've subscribed and been watching his videos for a while now. I like how he brings up many unknown war stories that were never covered elsewhere. His regular format of short 10 to 15 minutes videos are easy to follow and provide accurate descriptions based on research and facts, with good judgement editorials.
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lmcq11 wrote:I've subscribed and been watching his videos for a while now. I like how he brings up many unknown war stories that were never covered elsewhere. His regular format of short 10 to 15 minutes videos are easy to follow and provide accurate descriptions based on research and facts, with good judgement editorials.
I can say 'ditto' to all of that, Louis. :thumbup:

There's another Panther-related 10 minute special here. It's connected with 'Operation Nordwind', and a tussle between two Panthers and a large array of Shermans. He reaches places other historians seem to have overlooked:
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This is very interesting and informative little video on the 'R.E.M.E' Panther that I had no idea about. I have been recently doing a little research on the Panther for my next build project too. I have visited Bovington tank museum many times and almost always spend time with the Panther. In fact I was actually with the Bovington Panther just a few weeks ago at their annual Tankfest but had no idea it was British built! (though I probably just missed something obvious, I do that a lot :crazy: )
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The true tragedy for the Bovington Panther is the paint job :/ :haha:

That aside, the Panther seems to have a sort of majesty about it.
Being close & personal bordering on intimate with the lLittlefield Panther some years ago and several others, they don’t have a brutal purpose look or feel about them to me.
More a specialist tool in f war that manages to retain a level of dignity and refinement.

A Tiger 1 however, or any Soviet machine are just blunt force trauma devices that are cold and dark.
HL JAGDPANTHER,HL TIGER 1,HL PzIII MUNITIONSCHLEPPER, HL KT OCTOPUS,HL PANTHER ZU-FUSS,HL STuG III,HL T34/85 BEDSPRING,
HL PZIV MALTA,MATORRO JAGDTIGER,HL F05 TIGER,TAMIYA KT,HL PANTHERDOZER,HL EARLY PANTHER G,TAIGEN/RAMINATOR T34/76,
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I certainly agree about the paint job :D . There is a certain refined poise with Panthers and I think that's very much the appeal - it is probably why I, and many others, find them a bit of 'posh' tank, if I dare describe any war machine as such :crazy:
And, yes, your analysis of the T-34 in particular is just what I have had in mind - dark, brutal, and relentless. So, how would you characterise a Sherman (pick any)?
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In one word?
Compromise

Kind of like a small SUV , not good enough to be what it’s supposed to be, and not good enough to pretend to be something better.
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