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Postby NAB » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:37 am

Is this community quite small? I have struggled to find any other active forum except this one.
I would have thought that RC tanks would be more popular considering the fact you can model with them and then take them out for an actual drive/battle!

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Postby jarndice » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:48 am

NAB wrote:Is this community quite small? I have struggled to find any other active forum except this one.
I would have thought that RC tanks would be more popular considering the fact you can model with them and then take them out for an actual drive/battle!

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I don't think you have been looking very hard :haha:
I am a member of an Australian, North American,British, German and French r/c Armoured forum.
And there are more than just those out there.
But when compared to the R/C Aircraft community our world is quite miniscule :lolno:
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Postby Kaczor » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:50 am

Also Polish and Czech forums ;) And there is RC Tank forum on RC Universe: https://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-tanks-369/

But it's still niche hobby in comparison to RC cars, ships and planes.
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Postby NAB » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:41 am

I didn't mean there isn't other forums but I meant active one. Some I've seen the last post was 2 or 3 years ago!

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Postby Kaczor » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:42 am

Polish, German, Czech, Russian and other forums are very active but many people move to Facebook groups.
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Postby jarndice » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:49 am

NAB wrote:I didn't mean there isn't other forums but I meant active one. Some I've seen the last post was 2 or 3 years ago!

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The only one of those that I listed that could be classed as only semi-active is the R/C Australia Forum but it is nevertheless a rich source of information.
Kaczor gave you the address of R/C Universe and that is as active as R/C Tank Warfare and as we are oriented toward the UK r/c universe is centred around the USA but in both cases not exclusively so AND you will meet a few of us on that site some using the same ident others hiding behind another non de plume :haha:
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Postby General Jumbo01 » Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:24 am

The RC tank community is tiny! Compared to RC car racing for example, there are clubs who meet once or twice a week in nearly every large town in the UK, as there is for boats and planes. In the UK we struggle to hold tank meets once a month in each county, often failing.

I think the history of RC tanks has influenced this. Tamiya were the only supplier and their prices were too high for the average modeller to show interest. There were no budget entry level options so with so few tankers about, there were no clubs to encourage the hobby.

Since HengLong came along there has been a significant increase in world wide uptake. Initially the few Tamiya tankers very much looked down their noses at HengLong models but that has changed since Taigen and Torro lifted the bar a little and again since HL have lifted their own bar with range, detail, function and general quality upgrades where Tamiya have remained unchanged.

What would really change the scene is if the manufacturers and the users (us) could agree standards for battle systems and formats that could be adopted to encourage clubs to form and flourish. Without that, RC tank modeling will remain a home based model making hobby rather than a club based one and, therefore, niche. That doesn't make it any less enjoyable...... or does it? I suspect it maybe does :(

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Postby NAB » Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:51 pm

If Heng long has increased the interest in RC tanks then it makes sense to make the HL battle system the one of choice? This would encourage everyone who had bought a HL tank to join in rather than having to adapt and buy other IR systems that would put people off.

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Postby Rad_Schuhart » Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:06 pm

Most tank clubs around the world don't battle at all. I don't think making new standards will change anything. Most of us enjoying building and driving in scale dioramas. With all my respect for those who battle, for example the Danvile guys, who play jack rabbiting back and foward with a king tiger... well IMHO is just... pathetic.

There is no IR standard, neither battle code that will prevent guys piloting the models like cheap children toys just for scoring a hit. Definitely no interest for me and neither for any of us in my surroundings.
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Postby General Jumbo01 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:11 pm

I quite agree but Its only over the past few months, V6 onwards, that the HL mfu has became fully acceptable, the Taigen and Torro models having had until then a clear edge. That means that the RC tank community currently has invested in two incompatible systems.

For now though, it would be simple enough to run two groups or classes at clubs. The bigger issue is about how battles are conducted. Most are more a Grand Prix skirmish!

However, if you analyse the members of this forum, assuming we are typical, we are more focused on the model making skills and historical accuracy of our models than club meets. Model making is, after all, a rather home based and private hobby. After such complex and time consuming builds, there are not many who would even want to transport their pride and joys to a hall or field, let alone join in a free format battle! Solution??



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Postby Tiger6 » Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:25 pm

The long and short of it is that very few care about battles. As I had noted on a similar RCU thread recently, at an average club meeting we might get 4 or 5 of us to have a half hearted 'battle' for 15 mins or so (before we loose interest), but the other dozen or so members will just ignore it and carry on doing what they were doing. I could bring a battle ready tank for every member, and I suspect they still wouldn't be interested. Arguing over which system, how to set it up, whether you need FPV, etc is missing the point - if people aren't interested in playing the game in the first place, 'tweaking the rules' won't change their minds. I can't even remember the last time anyone even asked me how to build an IR battle tank.

2 years ago I suggested on here that if enough people expressed an interest, we could approach the organisers of a local show get the space and number of exhibitor passes set aside, and try to make a weekend long event of it - the thread predictably went silent... The show in question is next weekend, and our club has a small exhibit space set aside for us, so this wasn't just a case of 'random forum blowhard making promises he can't keep'.

As I posted on the other forum, my experience over in the US tells me that you need a minimum of 10 players and 2-3 times the space that average UK club has in order to make things interesting (for ref, our 10 man battles in Detroit were conducted in a large sports hall one of the members had access to). Otherwise its too easy to keep track over every one and it just devolves into corner sniping because nobody can move without getting shot.

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Postby Kaczor » Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:51 pm

In Poland nobody cares about IR battles. As we still don't have fixed "private" dioramas as our German neigbours, we meet few times in a year in different places, mostly military museums. Our meetings foucuses on showing RC tank hobby to the public. We build small "mobile" dioramas and have fun with realistic driving. But even in 38 million country there is only like dozen active members which show up on events.

Fun fact: until the end of the 90s in Poland, an even smaller group of modelers built RC tanks from scratch (mainly in 1:10 scale). At that time, official competitions were held, somewhat similar to those currently held in Russia. The models were judged by the jury and then overcame the obstacle course. The models were beautiful, but there was little fun in it.
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