Japan WW2 type 97 1/35 conversion to RRC using SERVO gearbox
Japan WW2 type 97 1/35 conversion to RRC using SERVO gearbox
This will be the first WW2 Japanese tank in my collection.
Just got one of these new, sealed in the box from 1975! I will be doing something different on this one using servos for the gear box and then using the servo circuit boards as ESC's.
Some servos can be modified by adding a few resistors to be repurposed into speed controls.
Just got one of these new, sealed in the box from 1975! I will be doing something different on this one using servos for the gear box and then using the servo circuit boards as ESC's.
Some servos can be modified by adding a few resistors to be repurposed into speed controls.
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- Going to be a challenge to animate this one.
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- model build shop in operation.
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- One servo gearbox in position.
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Last edited by modler on Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Japan WW2 type 97 1/35 conversion to RRC
I often wondered how much servos will stand up to continuous running? Oh, and I like your modeling table right by the Pella windows that can be opened for fresh air on nice summer days.
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I have several micro Tanks with coreless motors and they seem to hold up good. Of course they are lightweight Tanks with 1s lipo.Herr Dr. Professor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:11 am I often wondered how much servos will stand up to continuous running? Oh, and I like your modeling table right by the Pella windows that can be opened for fresh air on nice summer days.
Depends on what you mean by continuous running. I run these smaller Tanks until the battery is done, anywhere between 10-20 minutes. Oh, there is little else that will fit in this tank. Even the MTM gearboxes are too big for this one
Yes on nice days I certainly open the windows for fresh air, I live in a rural area where the air quality is good.
Making good progress on the Type 97 Tank.
here is a short video of the gearboxes running
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwMF8jKSIDE
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- Here is an example of coreless motors with gearbox in a Tank. The motors are the same as in most coreless servos and no they do not last as long as brushed motors and generally are run at a higher RPM than standard brushed motors. If kept at higher RPM's, they seem to last a good while plus they are much smaller and use less power
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- 10 hours to get to this point and nothing is really done until the tracks are spinning and don't fly off lol. You can see the date inside the hull 1975!
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- these servos I am using are Blue bird 303's and are pretty small and they just fit in this Tank..
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- ready for tracks and testing drive.
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Re: Japan WW2 type 97 1/35 conversion to RRC
Interesting work Mr Modler
Do you think the servo concept would work to animate a 16th scale static model such as a Takon Panzerjager 1/B Mit StuK 40/L48?
Do you think the servo concept would work to animate a 16th scale static model such as a Takon Panzerjager 1/B Mit StuK 40/L48?
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Re: Japan WW2 type 97 1/35 conversion to RRC
What a fantastic subject to animate. This will be a righteous thread!
Mike.
Mike.
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Time to install the tracks and do a test run
Ok, this T-97 has super gradient ability. The tracks system works perfect. No danger of this thing throwing s track
Here is a short video of the Tank doing a test track run
https://youtu.be/St8xM1NH6Z0
Ok, this T-97 has super gradient ability. The tracks system works perfect. No danger of this thing throwing s track
Here is a short video of the Tank doing a test track run
https://youtu.be/St8xM1NH6Z0
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- You know this is a good Tank if you see me install this radio gear in it.
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- T-97 Vs M5 Stuart. The T-79 wins in every aspect especially suspension.
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- the middle four road wheels have some suspension travel if mounted properly so this tank does have workable suspension.
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- The area under these panels is very tight and I had to grind material off the gearboxes to allow proper alignment of the upper hull to lower hull panel.
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- this is better. The upper hull comes off so complicates the lower hul panel. Took some time and patience to get it right as you see it here.
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- This rear panel is very difficult to get lined up. Took some time to get it right as the top hull is removable as in all hobby grade radio control Tanks.
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Re: Japan WW2 type 97 1/35 conversion to RRC
Yes with the proper servo it would work. the servos I used for this T-97 are the one of the smallest available but are quite adequate for this 1/35 model. As small as they are (BB303 servos), I still had to do some light grinding in a few critical areas. I don't think you will see another 1/35 T-79 animated as the time required is astronomical.HERMAN BIX wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:57 pm Interesting work Mr Modler
Do you think the servo concept would work to animate a 16th scale static model such as a Takon Panzerjager 1/B Mit StuK 40/L48?
I ran this test for 25 minutes with no issues. The 150mAh lipo can do >30 minutes
Here is a short video of the T-97 doing a run on my test track right off the assembly line.
https://youtu.be/St8xM1NH6Z0
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- Two of my recent builds
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Re: Japan WW2 type 97 1/35 conversion to RRC
Oh well yes Mike, this is a very interesting and challenging model to animate. I recently starting looking at obscure and or lesser know Tanks of WW2 especially Japan models and some others that I would have not chance with until recently when I got the idea to use "servos" as the gearbox. They are the smallest gearboxes around after allColemanCollector wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:12 am What a fantastic subject to animate. This will be a righteous thread!
Mike.
I use "control mouse pad click" (apple) to open image in a separate window to get a zoomed view.
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- The next one will go faster as this is the first one using servos
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Re: Japan WW2 type 97 1/35 conversion to RRC
Yes, do take on the less commonly known tanks, as 1/35 provides so many great choices. As you likely know, the only Japanese tank in 1/16 is the Takom kit of the Type 94 (https://forum.largescalemodeller.com/to ... -tankette/). There are three versions, Japanese early and late war and a "Chinese" one. I have all three, but have only built (static) the Chinese one in pristine condition precisely because the figure included with the model looks as if he's a young fellow waving in a parade.
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Guten Morgen Herr Doctor, The 1/16 T94 Tank's in the link are awesome . I would like to animate one of those.Herr Dr. Professor wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:41 pm Yes, do take on the less commonly known tanks, as 1/35 provides so many great choices. As you likely know, the only Japanese tank in 1/16 is the Takom kit of the Type 94 (https://forum.largescalemodeller.com/to ... -tankette/). There are three versions, Japanese early and late war and a "Chinese" one. I have all three, but have only built (static) the Chinese one in pristine condition precisely because the figure included with the model looks as if he's a young fellow waving in a parade.
Here is a short video of the T97 running under its own power with a on\off switch.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6UK6cOvt ... ture=share
Here is another video of the T97 doing a ramp test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St8xM1NH6Z0
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- Assembled and RRC
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- Assembled and RRC
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- Assembled and RRC
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- Type 97 vs Crusader Mk III
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- Type 97 vs Crusader Mk III
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- The Type 97 is close to final assembly and is fully functional RRC.
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- These were popular about 12 years ago. The sad thing is they have a design flaw that renders them useless as a servo after a very short life compared to other servos but I kept them for parts (12) thinking I could repurpose them or use them for parts. Well that time is now.
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- The T97 has drive sprockets that are offset to the ouside more than most so a long screw is required.
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- This servo case screw is used to interface the drive sprocket to the servo gearbox.
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- Salvaged 5 servos from the scrap pile. The electronics have been converted to ESC's and the gearboxes will be used to animate more projects.
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- Some of the hardware I use in the 1/35 models. I used 6 micro screws in the T97.
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