Need a reliable platform for conversion.
Building a casemate over an existing kit.
Not getting many answers elsewhere so I thought I would float the idea here (pun not intended.)
I am still on a search for a practicable RC Ironclad, and I had the thought that perhaps I could build such a vessel on an existing hull as was often done. This would involve building a casemate over the underlying structure. I imagine that it would have to be done with a relatively light material: plasticard, aluminum; I’d be highly suspicious of blue or pink foam for the purpose. Would try with a relatively simple, blocky example. Baltic, Fredericksburg, Choctaw, perhapa Keokuk if I feel I could handle the challenge.
Any thoughts? I’d sincerely appreciate them.
I am still on a search for a practicable RC Ironclad, and I had the thought that perhaps I could build such a vessel on an existing hull as was often done. This would involve building a casemate over the underlying structure. I imagine that it would have to be done with a relatively light material: plasticard, aluminum; I’d be highly suspicious of blue or pink foam for the purpose. Would try with a relatively simple, blocky example. Baltic, Fredericksburg, Choctaw, perhapa Keokuk if I feel I could handle the challenge.
Any thoughts? I’d sincerely appreciate them.
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Re: Building a casemate over an existing kit.
Maybe try a cheap RC submarine so you start with a low waterline base and build up a Monitor-ish superstructure on top with plastic card and 3D turret? Or a Merrimac-ish upper for more build room?
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Re: Building a casemate over an existing kit.
That could work. Monitors can be tricky, though maybe with one of the riverine monitors - higher freeboard and actual deck structure. The submarine bit might be concerning, though perhaps accurate as to seaworthiness for Monitor;)ColemanCollector wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:09 pm Maybe try a cheap RC submarine so you start with a low waterline base and build up a Monitor-ish superstructure on top with plastic card and 3D turret? Or a Merrimac-ish upper for more build room?
Mike.
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Re: Building a casemate over an existing kit.
Many years ago I built a simple monitor using polystyrene from washing machine packing , and clad it in 3mm lite ply. That’s what we call it in the UK. I don’t know if it is the same in the US. I then used aircraft tissue, and dope to seal it. That could sail in all weather as it was unsinkable. It did need some weight to take it to the waterline.
Re: Building a casemate over an existing kit.
As this would be a casemate ironclad, it would likely not be as complex, lacking turrets. Great tips on sealing, thank you!
"I have seen the first of the new tanks today. They are beautiful."
- Annibale "Electric Beard" Bergonzoli, upon the first delivery of M11/39s to Libya, 1940.
- Annibale "Electric Beard" Bergonzoli, upon the first delivery of M11/39s to Libya, 1940.
Need a reliable platform for conversion.
So, moving ahead with my ironclad project, I need a reliable platform for conversion. A hull I can build on with relatively intuitive electronics. I'm hoping someone here might have a recommendation. Size isn't an absolute deal breaker. As size examples:
- USS Dragon, a Union Tugboat, would be about 1.5 Feet 1/56 Scale
- USS Keokuk, a Union Casemate Ironclad, would be about 2.8 Feet in 1/56 Scale
- CSS Manassas, the cigar-shaped semi-submersible ironclad, would be about 2.5 Feet in 1/56 scale
- The "Yazoo Monster" is a CS sidewheel ironclad, the largest ever built inland; she'd be about 5.16 Feet in 1/56 scale
By comparison, the two best known American ironclads...
- USS Monitor would be approximately 3.19 in 1/56 Scale
-CSS Virginia would be approximately 4.9 feet long in 1/56 Scale
- USS Dragon, a Union Tugboat, would be about 1.5 Feet 1/56 Scale
- USS Keokuk, a Union Casemate Ironclad, would be about 2.8 Feet in 1/56 Scale
- CSS Manassas, the cigar-shaped semi-submersible ironclad, would be about 2.5 Feet in 1/56 scale
- The "Yazoo Monster" is a CS sidewheel ironclad, the largest ever built inland; she'd be about 5.16 Feet in 1/56 scale
By comparison, the two best known American ironclads...
- USS Monitor would be approximately 3.19 in 1/56 Scale
-CSS Virginia would be approximately 4.9 feet long in 1/56 Scale
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- Annibale "Electric Beard" Bergonzoli, upon the first delivery of M11/39s to Libya, 1940.
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Re: Need a reliable platform for conversion.
The model Company Dumas used to make a 1/72 scale duo-kit of the USS Monitor ans CSS Virginia that were suitable for RC. They stopped making the kit several years ago, but you do see it pop up on ebay occasionally. (I always suspected that anyone who owns the kit wonders where they'd display it if they built it....so it sits around unbuilt until the decide to get rid of it). I've seen two sold for that reason. Link to see what it looks like: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/dumas-1 ... a--1238598#
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Re: Need a reliable platform for conversion.
I have no idea about that kit, but I have the lord nelson victory tug one, and I can say that I deeply regret getting it. Horrible quality, tremendously overpriced.sassgrunt wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 8:21 pm The model Company Dumas used to make a 1/72 scale duo-kit of the USS Monitor ans CSS Virginia that were suitable for RC. They stopped making the kit several years ago, but you do see it pop up on ebay occasionally. (I always suspected that anyone who owns the kit wonders where they'd display it if they built it....so it sits around unbuilt until the decide to get rid of it). I've seen two sold for that reason. Link to see what it looks like: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/dumas-1 ... a--1238598#
Just my experience
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Re: Need a reliable platform for conversion.
"The model Company Dumas used to make a 1/72 scale duo-kit of the USS Monitor ans CSS Virginia that were suitable for RC. They stopped making the kit several years ago, but you do see it pop up on ebay occasionally. (I always suspected that anyone who owns the kit wonders where they'd display it if they built it....so it sits around unbuilt until the decide to get rid of it). I've seen two sold for that reason. Link to see what it looks like: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/dumas-1 ... a--1238598#"
Thank you for the link!
"I have no idea about that kit, but I have the lord nelson victory tug one, and I can say that I deeply regret getting it. Horrible quality, tremendously overpriced.
Just my experience "
I've heard, and read, quite mixed opinions re: the Dumas ironclad kit. It would be nice to see the kit before paying the price it goes for! I read a brief blurb around Christmas that, to summarize, essentially said that one of them was quite beginner friendly, the other something of a nightmare. Can't recall which. I want to say it was the Monitor that was easy to work with, the Virginia not so much.
Thank you for the link!
"I have no idea about that kit, but I have the lord nelson victory tug one, and I can say that I deeply regret getting it. Horrible quality, tremendously overpriced.
Just my experience "
I've heard, and read, quite mixed opinions re: the Dumas ironclad kit. It would be nice to see the kit before paying the price it goes for! I read a brief blurb around Christmas that, to summarize, essentially said that one of them was quite beginner friendly, the other something of a nightmare. Can't recall which. I want to say it was the Monitor that was easy to work with, the Virginia not so much.
"I have seen the first of the new tanks today. They are beautiful."
- Annibale "Electric Beard" Bergonzoli, upon the first delivery of M11/39s to Libya, 1940.
- Annibale "Electric Beard" Bergonzoli, upon the first delivery of M11/39s to Libya, 1940.
Re: Building a casemate over an existing kit.
Cheap and RC submarine are not two words usually go together!ColemanCollector wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:09 pm Maybe try a cheap RC submarine so you start with a low waterline base and build up a Monitor-ish superstructure on top with plastic card and 3D turret? Or a Merrimac-ish upper for more build room?
Mike.