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Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 11:47 pm
by lmcq11
Notice the roof top slat armor and the Mark of Zorro on Russian tanks entering Ukraine.

I am guessing these ugly and quite inconvenient slat armor is a last minute modifications by a some crews to get protection from US Javelin anti-tank missiles, and RPGs from city buildings. The Javelin hit tanks from above where the armor is weakest.

Lots of new markings for Russian tanks in this war. I wonder if the Russians realized the Z is the Mark of Zorro, applied on bad guy victims. Not the greatest choice, but relevant...
Russian tank with top slat armor
Russian tank with top slat armor
Russian tank with top slat armor
Russian tank with top slat armor
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Mark of Zorro
Mark of Zorro
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Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:06 am
by Maccrage
Hmmm... I wonder how effective that actually is against top-attack munitions.

Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:11 am
by tankme
It's really no different than the slat armor using on other modern AFVs. Looks like they are using it as a roof rack for all their gear also. Russian tanks don't have a turret basket like most Western tanks. It is probably decently effective and would keep things like bricks thrown from windows from hitting tankers in open hatches.

Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:19 am
by Son of a gun-ner
Please keep this thread about tank modelling and modelling ideas for model tanks.

We wouldn't want to make HERMAN turn up as HERMAN in his Hulk persona ;)

Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:24 am
by Son of a gun-ner
tankme wrote:It's really no different than the slat armor using on other modern AFVs. Looks like they are using it as a roof rack for all their gear also. Russian tanks don't have a turret basket like most Western tanks. It is probably decently effective and would keep things like bricks thrown from windows from hitting tankers in open hatches.
Yes, it would be more effective for urban warfare. The open turrets and crew compartments on tank destroyers fell foul of attacks from above during WW II.

Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:40 am
by Afrikakorps
Reminds me of the WW2 Russian tank bed spring armour.
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Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:43 am
by tankme
Although a Molotov cocktail would still be effective against it as it is basically napalm in a bottle especially if the tank was hit with a bunch of them at once.

Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:51 am
by Aussie
Latest news is the Z markings are either friendly ID marks , or , as some units have the Z's in triangles , circles or squares , a marking to help ID different vehicles so as to be sent in the correct direction.

Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 12:53 am
by Son of a gun-ner
Afrikakorps wrote:Reminds me of the WW2 Russian tank bed spring armour.
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That's like the one HERMAN built a while back.

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Re: Latest Ukraine war fashion for your T72/T90

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 5:47 am
by HERMAN BIX
Seems that despite modern countermeasures, good ole scrap steel slats still make good defense!
Lessons learned from the days of the 'Bedspring' when FIBUA.