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Postby hue city » Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:15 pm

i see on the tankzone site that they are "in cahooots" with "vantex"--not sure who vantex are ?????--anyways tz are selling vantex shermans Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh---but coming soon is the tiger 1----gas ---sounds really cool---or electrical----anybody have data on vantex and their 1/6 scale models--the tz site does not quote a price !!!!!!--anybody have a guess-- ??????
-all answers appreciated---best wishes--hue city

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Postby Dietrich » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:23 pm

Hi city hue,
I remembered seeing the Sherman on YouTube...so I googled 'vantex rc tank and this was top of the list.....No price for the electric and gas powered versions...so I would guess that as the old saying goes...'If you have to ask the price then you cannot afford it !' .... :haha:
http://www.fuyuanrc.com/en/dept.asp?id=106&mfr=135
YouTube....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7GNp2G1rYI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTI-F50UyGs
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One of the YouTube links mentioned Bigtanks.de..........They are HERE..
http://www.bigtanks.de/site/bigtanks-n.htm
Selling 1/6th scale tanks made of Glassfibre and metal ..in RUSSIA of all places....the Tiger 1 is 3350.00 Euros....but I cannot figure out if that is ready to run or not....but even if you trust the company to stay in business ..its way too expensive for me.... :D
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Trying to find the price of the 'vantex' has lead me to find the company 'CHUNWAI' RC Model tanks..I have never heard of them...BUT ALL the range are metal ranging from 1/16th at a mere $1300,00 to a 1/6th MARDER !! at a wallet busting price of $5800.00...with no smoke and no sound..oh and plus 5% PayPal surcharge.... :O ....here is the link...
http://www.chunwai-model.com/Article/Sh ... ticleID=17
......I will try and find the price...of the Vantex....they are made by the parent company of FUYUAN RC who seem to be big in the RC World with gas powered cars, trucks and boats........so I guess that they should be a pretty solid company
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Postby Dietrich » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:38 pm

Hi city hue,
I am not sure if the 'Tank Zone' is telling the truth about being the UK importer for the 'Vantex' range of tanks....???...This site seems to indicate that the ONLYsupplier is..... http://www.bigtanks.de/ and THAT was who this guy in THIS LINK....
http://www.onesixthwarriors.com/forum/s ... oject.html
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....................................................................................bought his from......It looks like it needs rather a lot of work from straight out of the box....including the gearboxes remounted to get rid of this incredible arrangement of the mounting bolts.....
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A bit amateurish, not to have at least put them with the heads on the outside !!!..instead of with the threads pointing out of the bottom.....AND...I think that you may have a bit of 'Fabrication' to do ...a rather large piece of the side of the hull is cut out so that the factory can mount the gearbox ...but the piece is NOT in the model so you have to make it... :O
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..so that it looks like this...
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Sorry about this, I am not meaning to be negative.....I am only adding bits here from the One Sixth warriors site..... just so that you are aware of what you are buying..........the guy goes on to say this ' the tank not only is missing the sponsons but the lower hull wall is too low'..........So that means that you also have to make these parts...
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....Then you have to cover them in resin and glassfibre them to the hull...................So it looks like there is a lot of work needed to make it an accurate kit.....I will just let you read the rest of the link..but there is more to do if you fancy a bit more modelling ....'Fore warned is fore armed' ..as the saying goes....
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Postby Dietrich » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:58 pm

Hi Again city hue,
I have finally found you a price...at least direct from Germany..although I think that the tank is actually sent to you Direct from China....it is 1550.00 Euros for the Electric version..as per this link....sorry to take so long but I thought that all the other stuff was worth a mention as well... :D ...scroll down the link for more details on the kit..it is 24 volt as standard with ONE electric motor...
http://www.bigtanks.de/site/inhalte/china.htm
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Postby Big Tanks of America » Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:12 pm

These tanks are available from the manufacturer directly:

http://www.fuyuanrc.com/en/dept.asp?id=106&mfr=135

They will send you all info just ask by email.

We will stop offering them due to the sub-standard quality. The German re-seller is very familiar with sub-standard quality since he also offers the tanks made in Russia, aka Alex Shlakther tanks.
As a customer you need to understand that it takes lot of work to bring it up to standard as well as model building skills, time and money. We do understand that many customers are just happy with that or pretend to be. There are lots of pictures meanwhile on the internet to show the flaws and work on these tanks.

If you are not a rivet counter and just need a big toy to play around with until a vital part breaks, that's the way to go.
If you like to have a scale replica that also runs r/c you will be unhappy.

Just my thoughts ...don't kill me.

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Postby Dietrich » Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:26 am

Hi Big Tanks of America,
I think that your information is a good concise reply and I am not going to kill you :haha: .......The tank looks very good on YouTube......but ..and its a very large BUT !!! ...it is not so good in reality. If I had bought that it would have been returned by now !!......for a variety of reasons with the quality, accuracy and certainly because of the lack of the 'Sponsen Covers' that will allow the tank to be filled up with dirt and debris as you drive it around !!!
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Postby Johnf » Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:11 pm

I believe the russian made tanks sold by Big Tanks.de are same as sold by Mark 1 tanks in UK. I would not be happy with them as high cost low detail plastic models. I think they come ready to run but I prefer to build.

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Postby Big Tanks of America » Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:34 pm

JohnF,

you are correct, Mark-1 and Bigtanks Germany are selling the Russian tanks.Mark-1 puts in his own electronics to customer specs. The main chassis with its "quality" still comes from Russia. Both are resellers and are not manufacturers. Same with Rolling Thunder in the USA.

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Postby PainlessWolf » Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:25 pm

Good Morning.
Mark-1 Tanks there in the UK was my first exposure to 1\6 scale Tanking. Am I to understand that they sell an inferior product? They seem pretty costly at some 7000 + US Dollars. I have heard of the all metal ones available here in the US but at 22000+ US dollars for a ready-to-run vehicle, it is _way_ out of my price range. I had hopes to one day afford one of the Mark-1 Tiger 1 tanks but now I am not so sure. Any thoughts yay or nay?
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Postby Big Tanks of America » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:31 pm

Hi,

it is correct that our tanks are on the higher end, but so is our quality !
For 22Grand you get a 1/4 Tiger, the 1/6 tanks cost way less, so do the 1/10 tanks.
If you want to go tanking with peace of mind, we are the first address.

Email us for a flyer showing pictures of those tanks made in Russia from customers who bought them. Judge for yourself.

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Postby Saracen » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:44 pm

It depends on your point of view :haha: :haha:

An Armortek Tiger 1 will cost £3600 for the basic kit and then £1400 for the motion pack, making an all up cost of £5000.
A Mark1 Tiger 1 is currently advertised at £3700, ready to run, with motion etc already installed.

The Armortek Tiger uses scale armour thicknesses where practical; the Mark1 Tiger is made from glass reinforced plastic.

The Armortek Tiger uses a scaled torsion bar suspension; the Mark1 Tiger uses coil springs and lever arms for the suspension.

The Armortek Tiger arrives as a kit of parts, which needs building and painting; the Mark1 Tiger arrives ready to run.

The early Mark1 Tigers had issues with the hulls flexing and cracking, the early Armortek Tigers were fiddly to get the wheels all lined up and working properly. I would imagine both have had long enough to iron these out - I know the Armortek TIgers now use a better wheel/spacer/axle arrangement.

Armortek build in batches, so it may be a couple of years before you can buy a Tiger from them directly, though second hand ones come up quite regularly. I don't know how Mark1 handles stock - he may keep some in stock or order from Russia on demand. Either way, you may be in luck and get one straight away or you may have to wait for the next batch to arrive.

Some people prefer the construction needed with an Armortek, others prefer buying a ready to run tank.

I believe the Armortek Tiger is significantly heavier than the Mark1 version, which may also be a factor for storing or moving it.

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Postby PainlessWolf » Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:12 pm

Adrian,
Thank you for your well informed reply. I have a lot to think about and fortunately, time in which to do so. Even a Mark-1 Tiger is a horizon event for me. I do have a 1\6 Stuart that I have been gathering the parts needed to turn it from a Toy into an RC Tank. After that is complete, we'll see what the Budget Gnomes say.
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Postby Big Tanks of America » Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:15 am

Back to the Vantex Sherman and other models they offer.

I consider them superior in quality to the tanks made in Russia. And they are way less expansive. So if you do not mind bringing it up to a certain standard yourself then this might be not a bad idea. Then again, their product line is limited as of today they have the Shermans, the M10 and a Tiger 1 early to come.

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Postby tomhugill » Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:32 pm

Which russian builders are you referring to? I've only seen the t34 on YouTube and that looked rather sexy!

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Postby Dietrich » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:25 pm

Hi tomhugill,
This is the link from the German site that contains the Russian made tanks....
http://www.bigtanks.de/site/bigtanks-n.htm
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If you click on the British flag it changes the page from German to English and then, the description goes straight into the fact that they are Russian made .............The 1:4 Scale Tiger 1s hull etc is actually made out of plywood...!!!
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The 1:6th scale Tigers description translates as this.....
Tiger I on a scale of 1:6
scale1:6drive 2 motors with a single gearbody GRP built paint finished as desired Special features,All parts of the drive incl optional metal chains, recoil
In our opinion the best 1:6 (New Generation)
from 2007 with a new chaindimensions
Length approx 137cm width 62 cm height 48 cmweightwith all drives about 70 KG
price depending on the equipment ready built from 3350, - (! New Generation)
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I like the part about ..'.In our opinion the best 1:6 new generation'....and the cost of ..FROM..3350 EUROS......at a price of over £3000.....it had better be .....Bloomin' Good !..Especially since that is a START price.....Bearing in mind that the Armortek FULL METAL is £5000....and their quality is second to none......
I have to say that since the 1:4th scale are made out of plywood it does NOT fill me with a lot of confidence... :O !!! ...and neither does their price-tag at a MASSIVE 7800 EUROS !!!
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I do not want to appear to be bashing a vendor that I do not know ....but bearing in mind the price of OVER £7000.... then I think that a close scrutiny IS actually called for......just look at this picture of their finished 1:4th Scale Tiger......and decide for yourself, I think that it is a 'Spot-The-difference' photo that has been included...... :haha: ...Compare the image of the late Tiger 1 at the Saumur museum in France... My differences list starts with...1.the vision block, 2. the size of the headlamp,3. no notches on the towing eyes for the late model AND it has features of an early turret with the binocular sites and side vision slit ,etc . I could say more but feel free to add your own 'Differences' ......

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Postby hue city » Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:12 am

wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!---that was my best post ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!----many thanks to all who replied to my original post --much appreciated-----now what to do ?????-----it is a sunny sunday morning with me soooooooooooo i think i will go have a ride with my tamiya tiger i and wake up a few of the neighbours---as for vantex---for now i will sit back and watch developments--again my thanks for every bodies replies--best wishes --hue city

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